How is/was Guest Control for WOC?

Originally Posted By DlandDug

I haven't heard anything about changing the colors of the sections. They could, I suppose, since the lamps are used to define the areas by color, and they can put any color into the lamps. I think it would be very confusing for the cast members people into their areas.

 

Originally Posted By DlandDug

Grr.

"I think it would be very confusing for the cast members people into their areas."

Should be,

I think it would be very confusing for the cast members MOVING people into their areas.

 

Originally Posted By LOVE-DCA

>>But I heard they will be changing the color with the areas every night so people wont know what sections they are getting. Has this changed?<<

yeah remember i think super dry heard it from a cm or leemac..i'm not sure but i was there with you and i heard it also

 

Originally Posted By LPFan22

I'm sorry if this question has been brought up before...

If I don't have reserved dining or fastpass viewing where can I go to see the show? I presume it won't be a great angle but where can I hang out on that side of the park without being told to move?

I've probably read something about this but I can't remember at the moment.

 

Originally Posted By mickeymorris1234

The back by california screaming and the fun wheel. That whole area is kept open for crowd control for the front and the left side by ariels is used as a staging area and then the orange seating area and they block off the area by MM so I don't know if you can see it by SS.

 

Originally Posted By FerretAfros

On Friday we saw guests hanging out on the boardwalk under the swings. It looked like all waterfront property (except for Paradise Park and the bridge to Ariel's Grotto) was kept open for people without reserved spots.

 

Originally Posted By cheesybaby

Saw the show from the back on 6/12. Yes, the entire waterfront is accessible during the shows, people were sitting on the benches under SSS, etc. Views are very limited, but you can walk around and watch from anywhere you like.

 

Originally Posted By leemac

<<yeah remember i think super dry heard it from a cm or leemac..i'm not sure but i was there with you and i heard it also>>

Wasn't me - I'm completely clueless when it comes to Ops stuff.

<<On Friday we saw guests hanging out on the boardwalk under the swings. >>

During tech I saw the show from that area and it was actually better than I expected. It was a very different experience to being perpendicular to the screens.

 

Originally Posted By LOVE-DCA

>>Wasn't me - I'm completely clueless when it comes to Ops stuff.<<

yeah i fugured it wans't you, but SD heard the same thing i did about the section colors changing... i just can't remember who told us! LOL. umm watching the backside of water is not fun.

 

Originally Posted By SuperDry

<<< <<On Friday we saw guests hanging out on the boardwalk under the swings. >>

During tech I saw the show from that area and it was actually better than I expected. It was a very different experience to being perpendicular to the screens. >>>

I saw it from that location last night. It was dramatically inferior to seeing it from the viewing area. I can't really counter what you said since I don't know what you expected.

Firs of all, the sound is terrible, as you get a combination of direct sound from an extreme angle out of one set of speakers (almost 90 degrees off to the side), plus echos from a lot of other locations at various amounts of delay.

Second, you can't really see what's projected onto the water screens. In some cases, you can't even tell there is anything being projected. In a few cases, you can make out what's being projected,

Also, the laser effects are maybe 10% of what they are from the front. You can't see Zurg at all, and most of the laser mist/wave effects are invisible. At best, you get a sense of a very poor attempt to add lasers to the show.

Overall, I'd say the view of WoC from the back side of water is about on par with what some people were describing the show as early on: the next incremental step beyond the Bellagio fountains: having more motion and lots of color, but nothing revolutionary.

Only when viewed from the front do you see the full scope of what the show is about. I'm afraid that some people without FPs will view it from the back the first time, and come away with the "incremental Bellagio" impression and not want to see it properly, but other than closing and clearing the boardwalk, it really can't be helped.

 

Originally Posted By TP2000

World of Color is only worth the time and hassle if you see it from the Paradise Park area. Anyone who says differently (crowd control CM's or Disney execx) is just lying to try and alleviate the pressure of non-Fastpass people wanting to watch the show too.

I walked around the entire Pier area for the last show a few days ago, and the view from all of those angles outside of Paradise Park ranged from moderately crummy to absolutely horrible. And that's just the visual part of the show. The audio is terrible and echoing, and there is obviously no special effects or little extras.

If you can't watch World of Color from Paradise Park because you don't have a Fastpass, that would be an excellent opportunity to go on Soarin' or go get a Glowtini at Glow Fest.

In short, don't bother and don't for a second believe the smiling Cast Member who invites you to watch the show from the backside of Paradise Pier.

 

Originally Posted By leemac

<<I saw it from that location last night. It was dramatically inferior to seeing it from the viewing area. I can't really counter what you said since I don't know what you expected.>>

I had **very** low expectations but I thought it was okay - nothing like being perpendicular to the main screen but it wasn't completely pointless. I thought it was better than being at the extremities of the mist screens for F! where you can't see anything.

Obviously it doesn't compare to being in the park. Not my any stretch of the imagination.

 

Originally Posted By mickeymorris1234

I have to agree with the audio complaints, it is bad, but doing a few years of theater and concert sound I know why and I have to deal with it. Because it is a precision timed show, Disney cannot time delay the areas outside of paradise park to counter the echo. Normally (every concert does this) you use a cross over device that will delay each speaker to either your specs or to factory specs based on the distance from the source (in this case the park) and the listener (those suffering by screaming). The problem with sound delaying WoC so there is no echo is to delay the sound a half a second, it will be off on everything a half a second. The mouth movements on the water, the dramatic water shots, and so on. So rather than making it look like Disney can't program things right, they just fired every speaker simultaneously and called it good. It is a loose loose situation no matter what.

 

Originally Posted By LOVE-DCA

I guess then we call can agree that it’s better to see WOC from PP park area, and get a fastpass!

 

Originally Posted By dl1956

My opinion:
I've found my area of the Pier backside from which to watch the show. Get most of the mist images, more than a decent view of the fountains and flames, do miss the Pod images and a couple of other parts of the show. And with a little experimenting, found spots where the sound blends extremely well.

 

Originally Posted By LuLu

What do we have to pay you to get that info?

 

Originally Posted By Judy from Boise

I believe we can all make our personal decisions about the trade off of quality and hassle. I may never view it from the park, and be perfectly satisfied........especially if dl1956 spills the beans.

 

Originally Posted By DlandDug

So the DizKid and I went over to DCA last night and strolled all around the lagoon during the 10:15 show. We found a number of locations-- some dramatically underpopulated-- that were very satisfactory viewing. In fact, the DizKid really liked a couple of viewing areas that were directly opposite Paradise Park.

Sound was uniformly good. I am baffled by the assertion that the sound outside of PP is horrible. It seems a matter of opinion.

Oh-- there is also no formal "Green" viewing area. Just Red, Yellow, Blue and Orange.

 

Originally Posted By dl1956

Not that I'm trying to keep things to myself, but...

Actually, it's very easy to see where the best, most open viewing areas are, and as for the sound quality, I understand that WOC might still be experimenting with the sound setup to try to make it more attractive for viewing from all around the lagoon, and for all I know next time I go the sound balance may be completely changed.

 

Originally Posted By dl1956

DlandDug, one complaint I was hearing from people in the Pier area was the echo effect from speakers from different locations that were playing the same sounds.