Originally Posted By Beaumandy Nice post Ken. Very good post. Interesting to see that people can work but they refuse.... just as suspected.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Very good post. Interesting to see that people can work but they refuse.... just as suspected.>> You just don't get it, do you? I'm a 53 year old guy who's held a desk job all my life. Am I in physical shape to hang sheetrock for a living even if I wanted to?? No way. Many of the New Orleans evacuees are older and not in any shape to hang sheetrock either. Does that apply to ALL evacuees? No it does not. But the situation Tom described does not apply to all evacuees either. You jump on a single incident to validate your pre-conceived notions. Typical.
Originally Posted By planodisney i dont know what to do about this hole situation. I dont want to abandon people who cant help themselves. We have to change the way we deal with these inner cities. You guys, even some of the thoughtful liberals on this site, have to admit that they way in which our government has allowed these poeple to live drawing checks once a month, and rewarding them for having more children, isnt working. Something has to change. Some of you guys dont live in the south, or in any of the cities where these people have settled. I hate to say it, honestly I do, but a large number of these people are absolute animals in their behavior. College campusses like LSU have had unbelievable problems as well as the school districts where they have settled. my wife is a school teacher here in Dallas, who teaches in an area of her choice, because she feels a calling to help these minority children and loves them very much. But, she has come home crying on numerous occasions, and insanely frustrated by the children and their parents who have come from New Orleans. Most of their parents couldnt give a rats you know what about what goes on at school or their childs behavior or education. Something major has to be done guys. many of these people and communities are WAY beyond just giving a hand up, because they dont care about succeeding in life or having any responsibility of the sort.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<We have to change the way we deal with these inner cities. You guys, even some of the thoughtful liberals on this site, have to admit that they way in which our government has allowed these poeple to live drawing checks once a month, and rewarding them for having more children, isnt working.>> I agree 100%. Aid to Dependant Children should have a two year cap on benefits. Programs like that should be replaced by programs subsidizing education, housing, childcare and health care. Benefits would be allocated on a sliding scale. People would have the subsidies when they first entered the workforce, but as their career and income advanced they would be reduced and finally eliminated. We should give people incentive to work instead of giving them incentive to not work. Unfortunately, whenever something like this has been proposed it has been rejected. Largely because in the short term it would be considerably more expensive than present programs. I'm convinced though that a plan like I proposed would greatly reduce costs over the long term, as well as giving people a true ladder on which they could climb out of poverty. See plano? We don't disagree on everything!
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<<You just don't get it, do you? I'm a 53 year old guy who's held a desk job all my life. Am I in physical shape to hang sheetrock for a living even if I wanted to?? No way. Many of the New Orleans evacuees are older and not in any shape to hang sheetrock either. Does that apply to ALL evacuees? No it does not. But the situation Tom described does not apply to all evacuees either. You jump on a single incident to validate your pre-conceived notions. Typical.>>> I really have to come back to this post because I think its so out of line. Look the people who are homeless from Kartina are not the only ones left homeless from a hurricanie. There are still many people in Pensecola that are still unable to live in their homes after they were hit by three hurricanes. But for some reason the "local" of New Orleans are FAR MORE improtant than anyone in Florida. Road Trip you have to admit that their is absolute favoritism going on right as FEMA has been directed to help the parasites with lawyers from Katrina get the cake and everyone else in Florida gets the crumbs. If your idea of helping your fellow man is to ONLY help the poor of New Orleans while people remain homeless in Pensecola then I would say that's pretty pathetic. I'm not tring to pick a fight here, just tired of all the crying and sobbing for the poor poor poor people in New Orleans. As if they were the first ones in history to ever experience a hurricane. In Atlanta we had four tornado's as a direct result of Katrina, which destroyed several homes. I suppose that is no big deal since it wasn't an ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, OR AN ENTIRE TOWN. I really don't have any sympathy for those evacues. New Orleans looked the other way and allowed prostitution, alcohol availabilty 24 hours a day 7 days a week and gambling all considered to be "sinful" activities here in Georgia. And somehow we are expected to actually care about the parasites that lived off of all that vise. Face it all they have done is moved to another part of the dog.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>I dont want to abandon people who cant help themselves. We have to change the way we deal with these inner cities. You guys, even some of the thoughtful liberals on this site, have to admit that they way in which our government has allowed these poeple to live drawing checks once a month, and rewarding them for having more children, isnt working.<< Thank you for saying that, plano. I agree. What we have now doesn't work. I think we need a better plan, but I don't think part of that plan should be cutting off what we have now without something to replace it.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Kennesaw Tom...New Orleans makes for better tv. That is it in a nutshell.
