Originally Posted By HokieSkipper The seat issue is a big one no doubt. But they are already looking at the problem. It seems from what I've heard it's not an "if" they will fix it but a "when". From what I understand this was never intended to be an issue, but during design they may have been overly cautious on the restraint design, and are only now seeing the detriments. While I can't and won't give them a free pass, I can at least say as an engineer I understand where they were coming from with being careful on the issue. It's a first of its class ride, and it's better to be safe than sorry.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 my question would be why is it I don't have an issue with any ride at Six Flags ? Is the restraint system that new/different ? I am not asking to be difficult- but trying to understand as I truly am looking forward to WWoHP this trip- and will be very disappointed to not be able to experience all of it
Originally Posted By hopemax vdbdad, there also have been people 6'5" that have reported that they rode. So there is still a chance for you. It all depends on your torso length, which most people aren't going to know until you are there. Some people are saying the new Innoventions exhibit, Sum of All Thrills uses a very similar restraint system. It's the same manufacturer. So it may be in people's best interest to try that ride first, and see how things go. If you don't fit, then you know how you stand. On another subject, but still on Universal. I talked to my Mom today, and got a few of her thoughts on Universal. She commented on the amount of concrete. Disney has a better atmosphere because of the trees and greenery that break things up.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<actually I think that would hurt Uni Orlando. This same argument is made about Disney copying/cloning rides/attractions- how suddenly dies it become a good idea for Uni ?>> I don't think he meant clones, but experiences on the same level of WWoHP. << I liked Uni when it highlighted characters like Rocky & Bullwinkle and there was a whole stable of those that I enjoyed. Most have hit the road as they try and be edgy and current I guess.>> I don't think that's the case at all. If it was, they wouldn't have themed a whole land at IoA around classic cartoons and comic strips. <<That's fine but it also limits the demographics some - when there is no need to. If you are going to be a family friendly place and take on Disney you need to have something for everyone. >> This I agree with. IoA has some great rides that everyone can do (Spidey, all of Suess Landing, Pop-eye) as does USO (MIB, Shrek, Jimmy Nuetron, Jaws, Disaster) but both need to do a better job of it. Their parks are a little thrill heavy, no doubt. But I do think if Wizarding World is as big as I, and I'm sure they, believe it will be, you may see a change in they way they do business.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<my question would be why is it I don't have an issue with any ride at Six Flags ? Is the restraint system that new/different ?>> The ride system is revolutionary. It's the first time it's being done. Again, I'm not saying they should get a free pass because of it, but I understand why they may have made mistakes. I'd rather hear news that some are turned away rather than some died due to poor design.
Originally Posted By Bandersnatcher I'll tell you one thing that the Potter attraction has all over the Disney parks - themed merchandising. The shops at Hogsmeade are spectacular - each one has merch derived from merch that appeared in the Potter books, and it's creative and good quality. By contrast, the stuff at the Disney parks is pretty much the same from gift shop to gift shop - and most of those gift shops aren't part of the attraction, as the Hogsmeade stores are. Their theming ends at the buildings' exteriors. That's one of the frustrations I have with WDW - most of the neat buildings on Main Street or Hollywood Studios have nothing special inside them. There's a cynical commercialism at the Disney parks now that I find depressing. Hopefully the goddamn bean-counters running Walt's company nowadays will get a wake-up call from Wizarding World. I tell you, when I visited there briefly a few days ago, I felt more actual magic, an more immersive experience into a true fantasy world, than I have felt at Disney for a long time. WDW's Fantasyland is a really disappointment; too small, and the new expansion sounds like more merchandising. Sad. Add that to the broken Yeti ride, and I think WDW is in deep trouble. This summer, for the first time, I'm taking my vacation at Universal and skipping WDW altogether. It's lost a lot of its magic for me.
Originally Posted By Bandersnatcher Oops -sorry, I meant that the DISNEY shops' themings end at the buildings' exteriors. Should have proofread before posting.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper << I talked to my Mom today, and got a few of her thoughts on Universal. She commented on the amount of concrete. Disney has a better atmosphere because of the trees and greenery that break things up.>> See, personally, this is something I would agree Disney USED to do so much better than anyone. But now, as I've said before, MK has become a concrete desert of suck, Future World in Epcot has always been basically all concrete, and the same with DHS. Really the only park I'd say that still has terrific greenery is DAK and I guess World Showcase.
Originally Posted By Bandersnatcher GAHH!!! I made all sorts of grammatical errors in my first post here. I need coffee, STAT!
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 " By 11 Am they very calling begging to pick them up and take them to Disney" See, I don't know how that's possible. I could ride Spidey ten times in a row and not get bored - that's a large chunk of the morning right there! Add in a couple times on Hulk and you are at lunchtime. The place was so highly themed I could just wonder around the Lost Continent and JP areas for an hour without even riding anything! I really don't see how somebody could be "done" by 11am, crowds or no crowds!
Originally Posted By sjhym33 "...most of the neat buildings on Main Street or Hollywood Studios have nothing special inside them. There's a cynical commercialism at the Disney parks now that I find depressing." My thoughts exactly. It is high on my list of complaints at WDW especially when it comes to Main Street. One of the reasons I tend to avoid the MK is because the sight of the Fire House, Main Street Cinema, the loss of half of Center Street, the Magic Shop location that have all been turned into a mall is enough to make me sick. It really has destroyed any magic that the park used to hold for me.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>If my size is an option - then their planning is really off base. While I may be tall- I certainly am not freaky tall by any means-- if you lock out every guy 6'3" or more that's quite a segment. My daughters boyfriend is 6'4" also ( he will be travelling with us) --<<< As a fellow 6'3-3er, I agree. Disney could be a bit more helpful, too. Splash is always a very tight fit.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>While I can't and won't give them a free pass, I can at least say as an engineer I understand where they were coming from with being careful on the issue. It's a first of its class ride, and it's better to be safe than sorry.<<< FANBOI APOLOGIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Future World in Epcot has always been basically all concrete<<< FW Central, yes, but not East and West. Both are VERY green.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Future World in Epcot has always been basically all concrete<<< FW Central, yes, but not East and West. Both are VERY green.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<FANBOI APOLOGIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> Far from it. Rather an engineer who knows the reprocutions of an unsafe design.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<FW Central, yes, but not East and West. Both are VERY green.>> Very? Not really. West more so than East. But still, I wouldn't call them very green. Still too much concrete and not enough shade.
Originally Posted By macnak81 sorry, but I didn't read all 250 some previous posts, so in case it was already covered , excuse me. But,,,, I think Disney is to heavy on with the fairy factor. What about the boys and teens? They need to start Imagineering another mountain ! see an older post about a Villain Volcano, <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-108910-P-1.asp?c=1" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms....asp?c=1</a>
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ Or Villan Village... >>>>Very? Not really. West more so than East. But still, I wouldn't call them very green. Still too much concrete and not enough shade.<<< You gotta be kidding...FW East is almost too green. It's all grass. I'd love some flowers or bushes in those planters. Shade, though, is a needed commodity, you are right. But given EPCOT's set up, it's kinda hard to pull off.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^^I should have clarified. When I talk about green I mean shade. Epcot's good with grass.
