Originally Posted By iDisney72 <<Or it could be an indication that you're an idiot who can't differenciate between DtD and DCA.>> Well that seems a little unnecessary, dont you think?
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> Or it could be an indication that you're an idiot who can't differenciate between DtD and DCA. << Again, you're more easygoing about cheesy DCA than a brief comment posted here. And it's likely that a truly fantastic new Disney park, which generated lots of positive word-of-mouth, press and publicity, located next to Downtown Disney, would have brought in larger numbers of serious, big-time, bigger-spending tourists-visitors to Anaheim.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Well that seems a little unnecessary, dont you think?>> Since he finds it necessary to take swipes at anyone who doesn't buy his argument, I will do the same.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<it's likely that a truly fantastic new Disney park, which generated lots of positive word-of-mouth, press and publicity, located next to Downtown Disney, would have brought in larger numbers of serious, big-time, bigger-spending tourists-visitors to Anaheim.>> DLR had 20 million visitors this year, generated by positive word of mouth, press and publicity.
Originally Posted By alexbook Argh! Does every discussion have to degenerate into yet another argument about DCA?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss ^^yes. LOL. I might add, is it Disney's fault that Hoypoloi is closing? No. All they did was collect rent. It was up to the owners of Hoypoloi to run their store and sell things that people are willing to buy. It doesn't matter if the people who went in were big-spending tourists who browsed once a year or locals who came in every day. It was their responsibilty to adapt to the marketplace, not Disney. The quality of DL and DCA have next-to-nothing to do with the store's closing.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> who doesn't buy his argument, I will do the same. << I didn't realize I was arguing that Downtown Disney was the same thing as DCA, or that one was in the other. However, I was making the point that if DCA had been a truly great new Disney park, then the number of people pouring into Anaheim probably would have been even closer to the dimensions of Disney World or the Tokyo Resort, or certainly somewhat above 20 million. Moreover, it very well could have consisted of larger numbers of people willing to dig down deeper into their wallets---which local passholders, from a per capita standpoint, aren't as likely to do.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I accept your explaination, but you didn't say that in your original post... you merely said that it could be because DCA was rinky-dink. Regardless, as I said in post #26, DL and DCA are not the reason the store is closing.
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 "Again, you're more easygoing about cheesy DCA than a brief comment posted here. And it's likely that a truly fantastic new Disney park, which generated lots of positive word-of-mouth, press and publicity, located next to Downtown Disney, would have brought in larger numbers of serious, big-time, bigger-spending tourists-visitors to Anaheim." It doesn't help that Disney was in "serious" discussion about a third park before the end of the decade and a water park opening in 2003. I would have held on too, if there seemed to be an investment like this on the horizon. Disney was partly at fault.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I would have held on too, if there seemed to be an investment like this on the horizon.>> You can't run a business on futures, unless you're talking about the commodities business, which we are not. Should Disney have hung on to the original concept of DCA, and waited for the crowds to "get it" and spend their money? No. If people didn't spend enough money at Hoypoloi to make it worth the lease, it's because the owners didn't have what people wanted to buy, not because they didn't have the right customers.
Originally Posted By 9oldmen >>They have (had?) a lovely section of items one can buy for artistic Jewish friends of ours, such as menorahs and those threshold prayer holders.<< Mezuzah. It's called a "Mezuzah" (literally translated, it means "doorpost" in Hebrew). Too bad about the store closing.
Originally Posted By elene I was planning to make one final visit on my 1/15 trip but it was already closed and the sign was already gone. I was very disappointed.
Originally Posted By smeeeko well, I never shopped there as I can't afford anything in the store.. but does anyone have any updated info on what may actually take the lease over?? I got a Disney at Home catelog at the NFFC thingy on Sunday and man, I really would like to get some of the rosewood items they have in the first few pages (the entry bench with baskets and the umbrella/ coat stand for example) but they are just a bit pricey and to be shipping them when it would be so much nicer to be able to go somewhere local to purchase stuff for our place.. I'm not in a hurry but still, it'd be nice if they expanded the at home stuff. Considering it's a local market that DLR has for a majority of it's guest base.. I think it'd be a smart move. =) IMHO of course.
Originally Posted By Disnerd The new store won't open until Sept. '06. But I bet if the couture craze dies or Disney gets a leassor willing to pay the rent on a 5 year lease they will drop their plans. Disney makes no space rent from their own stores so they will always go with a non Disney tennant.
Originally Posted By Dznygrl Yeah, Hoypoloi has always been kind of a "walk through" store for me. Nice things, but not that sad to see it go. But omg I would LOOOVE to have a Disney Home store! Ever since my trip to WDW in 2003 I've been griping about how much DLR needs one. Especially after they completely eliminated the home section of World of Disney. So what's this about Disney at Home closing at WDW? Why? I thought a place like that would generate lots of business.
Originally Posted By tonyanton From what I remember of the one at WDW, the product line got progressively smaller, until the end when it was basically towels, candles, and a sparse selection of dinnerware. I remember initially unique furniture pieces making up a sizable section of the merchandise.
Originally Posted By alexbook I just noticed that Illuminations, right next door to the former Hoypoloi location, is having a "remodeling sale." The place looks half-empty.
Originally Posted By fkurucz An interesting name for a store. From dictionary.com: Hoi polloi: The common people; the masses Maybe Wal-Mart sould use that name
Originally Posted By smeeeko ^^LMAO.. 'hoi poloi' the upscale Walmart.. like what is it.. expressions is the upscale Home Depot store??
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster I bought a plastic fish at Hoipoloi. It's lovely. I keep it in my bathroom. It stares up at the fashing nets draping from my ceiling.
