Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "Are you sure you want to defend the protesters while complaining about mawnck's line?" So which protesters were calling the president a nigger?
Originally Posted By ecdc Most of them. They just say it to each other instead of putting it on a sign.
Originally Posted By Mr F The Govt. HAS to spend $$, it's the only way to get out of this Economic mess. How else are we supposed to get out of it? Borrow money? Print and distribute more currency bills? Borrowing money and Printing more Bills is how we got into this mess in the 1st place.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones By characterizing the protesters as racists you're basically doing the same thing they are doing when they call Obama a Socialist or a Marxist. Liberals, Republicans, they're all the same in their tactics.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Both my wife and I work for "the government". We work damn hard. So do the bast majority of our colleagues. To say that "the government" is th enemy is simply ignorant.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "Borrowing money and Printing more Bills is how we got into this mess in the 1st place." I'm pretty sure it had more to do with an unsustainable real estate bubble, deregulation and bad lending practices.
Originally Posted By ecdc I don't think all the protesters are racist. Just some of them. And it's silly to say I'm the same as them. Let's look at it this way: I'd estimate that the people who whined about the President's speech to school kids, who donated money to Joe Wilson, who walk around with signs of the President as Hitler, etc., etc., make up roughly 20%-25% of the U.S. population. They're a minority to be sure, but they're a large enough minority that they get some attention and cause plenty of damage. Now let's say out of those 20%-25%, roughly 30%-40% are racists. That's roughly 8% - 10% of the population as a whole. Are you telling me it's unreasonable to assume that 8% to 10% of the U.S. population is racist?
Originally Posted By ecdc And BTW, the latest polls show that only 30% or so of the country identifies itself as "Republican." So, assuming conservatively that even 15% of the country is part of or sympathetic to this whole wacky movement of "Obama as Hitler," "Keep Obama away from my kids, etc," that means some 50% of the Republican party is made up of these insane people. And if you look at polls of people who identify as Republican, and say, birthers, the numbers bear me out. So can we please stop with the silliness of "Oh, golly! It's just a few wackos doing this!" It's a HUGE part of the Republican party, and the data backs that up.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>You do know racists can be, and are other races besides white right?<< I sure do. We learned, after all, what a terrible racist Sonia Sotomayor is. Give. Me. A. Break.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 You are making some awfully broad assumptions, and illogical thinking... Basically pulling numbers out of your ass to accuse half of Republicans as being racist.... What a load of crock....
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I sure do. We learned, after all, what a terrible racist Sonia Sotomayor is. Give. Me. A. Break.<< Besides your smart ass comment, you are telling me, there are no racists in America besides white people? Yes or No please....
Originally Posted By ecdc >>You are making some awfully broad assumptions, and illogical thinking...<< Then it should be easy for you to refute it. Oh wait, you didn't do that. You threw a little fit instead.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Yes or No please....<< Of course there are. Which has nothing whatsoever to do with what we're talking about. Your point is a red-herring. White people are still more racist than any other group (although it's still a small minority of that group) and their racism is far more damaging than that of other groups. It's called "analysis."
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Your assumptions are... All racists are white All racists are Republicans... 30% of Americans are Republicans 15% of Americans protest Obama 100% of Americans who protest President Obama Therefore 50% of Republicans are racist... You have to be a complete idiot to agree with your line of thinking, and yes, all of the comments I made above were made or implied by you earlier in this thread....
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 100% of Americans who protest President Obama<< Forget to put, are racist... and I posted the above before you admitted not just whites are racist...
Originally Posted By ecdc >>What a load of crock....<< <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/55658/national-poll-only-36-percent-of-republicans-say-obama-was-born-in-america" target="_blank">http://washingtonindependent.c...-america</a> <a href="http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/story/922941.html" target="_blank">http://www.kentucky.com/news/s...941.html</a> <a href="http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/09/02/birthers_birchers/" target="_blank">http://www.salon.com/politics/...irchers/</a> There ya go. Actual polls that bear me out. Depending on the poll you follow, a majority or very large minority of Republicans are "birthers" or at least aren't sure if Obama was born in the United States. See, I don't need to invent stuff to make Republicans look bad. They do it all on their own.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Oh, and I would really like to refute your statements with links or facts.... But it's awfully hard to refute stupidity... You have no proof whatsoever that 50% of the Republican Party is racist, yet you throw that number out there.... with no facts of your own besides your illogical reasoning, then accuse me of throwing a fit when I call you on your BS...