Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Of the whole mess the only one that was very Disney-like was the Adventurer's Club. That will be missed.>> That's what I was talking about. It's a travesty they're knocking it down.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper And the Comedy Wharehouse as well. That should have stayed. No reason those two clubs should go.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>That's what I was talking about. It's a travesty they're knocking it down.<< >>And the Comedy Wharehouse as well. That should have stayed. No reason those two clubs should go.<< Preach on Brother Skipper! Closing the Adventurers Club is the dumbest thing Disney has ever done. It has cost them money and, more importantly, good will by the ton. I think it's just so telling how they have dealt with the whole thing. Guests say, "We want the Adventurers Club back." Disney says, "We don't care what you want. We are going to give you what we want to give you." How very....un-Disney. How DIS-appointing. It's still there. It could be reopened in rather short order. Swallow your pride TDO. Give the guests what they want. Save the Adventurers Club!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Exactly. SO why did Disney think it was a good idea to do this in a time when no one was going to build? Seems like common sense to me ---- I have to be hjonest the last time I was there I walked to the West Side - ( God knows why) and the only people it seemed like were there were survey takers- Shops we empty- and to borrow term from Spirit- it seemed ghetto like. It was sad--so I am glad they are doing something with it..
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Quick questions for those possibly in the know, like Lee: 1) How many of the artifacts and props in AC are the personal property of Rohde and simply "on loan"? 2) How many of the artifacts and props are now gone? I suspect that several of the props will wind up in the new Tangaroa Terrace and Trader Sam's at the DLH, the way that Disney is describing this establishment. And if any of those artifacts belonged to Rohde, I suspect he'll be taking them back in the near future, if he hasn't done so already.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 No one ever said they were. But, the last time I checked, Disney World was still as crowded as ever. Sure, maybe people aren't buying as much as they once did, but Disney World as a whole is probably still making quite a bit of money. ------------------ with the deep discounts on everything from food to rooms ..I'm thinking there are lots of peoiple and less profit for all involved.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 on the topic of the Adventurers club-- although I never visited much- it seemed like it should have a place. However regardless I believe Disney west side was becoming something less and less controllable for their comfort zone- and they wanted out of the Friday nite-Saturday nite club scene.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^^I think you're confusing West Side with PI. West Side is where Cirque is, and basically Cirque is the only reason anyone ever went to West Side.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Ad to add, the AC and Comedy Wharehouse could have easily stayed and fit in with whatever Disney did with the area. They aren't typical clubs or bars.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 you're right- I always sort of lumped them together but technically they were different. Once DtD expaned past what the Marketplace used to be I lost interest in much of the rest of it. I can't comment on the COmedy Club because I never went there- I went to the Adventurers club twice- I had no issue with it. It's not whjy I ( the family) went to WDW but again as much love as it gets it seems like it should have survived
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I think it's just so telling how they have dealt with the whole thing. Guests say, "We want the Adventurers Club back." Disney says, "We don't care what you want. We are going to give you what we want to give you." How very....un-Disney. How DIS-appointing.>> I'd say it's very typical of Disney in the 21st century. What don't you get about them not wanting guests like yourself anymore? Do you need a Disney exec to tell you so? (if so, I have a few who are perfect for the job since they have told me the same thing ...) You either enjoy the MAGICal grass and chips (jokes anyone? c'mon?) or you can go elsewhere. They are smarter than you and all of their guests and they know what's best. You shouldn't question any of their decisions. <<It's still there. It could be reopened in rather short order. Swallow your pride TDO. Give the guests what they want. Save the Adventurers Club!>> Let it go, buddy. It's deader than Liz Taylor (too soon?) But it will be reincarnated in some form in HK. Now ... I heard you were spotted earlier this week lubing up a yeti ;-)
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Quick questions for those possibly in the know, like Lee:>> In the know?!??! He is a super MAGICal special guest on fanboi podcasts. Trust me on this one ... I had to sit in front of a fountain last weekend while he spewed his 'wisdom' ;-) <<1) How many of the artifacts and props in AC are the personal property of Rohde and simply "on loan"? 2) How many of the artifacts and props are now gone? I suspect that several of the props will wind up in the new Tangaroa Terrace and Trader Sam's at the DLH, the way that Disney is describing this establishment. And if any of those artifacts belonged to Rohde, I suspect he'll be taking them back in the near future, if he hasn't done so already.>> I've heard that many are headed (or already there) to HKDL for use in the AC there and possibly Mystic Manor as well. Some could wind up at Trader Sam's as well, but I haven't heard they would.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Ad to add, the AC and Comedy Wharehouse could have easily stayed and fit in with whatever Disney did with the area. They aren't typical clubs or bars.>> No, but that was also part of their problems. They weren't nearly as popular with the general public as they were with fanbois and CMs, especially as the years went on. And many of those folks, frankly, took over the clubs like they were home all the while either not buying drinks or nursing a Coke all night. I'm sad to see them gone, but only in the context of PI being dead. ~Let's all get psyched about Thor!~
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Not that I blame y'all. Check out my reaction to this "grassy knolls" news caught on tape. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcKwexirzcM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...wexirzcM</a>
Originally Posted By Tony C I'll be honest I did the Adventurers Club once and left thinking what was the big deal. But to each his own.
Originally Posted By Manfried Time to expose the real truth about Pleasure Island to everyone here: It never made any money. So they finally threw in the towel. There is so much other stuff there its kind of nice to see stuff not being built.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Uber-fan opinion of ANYTHING Disney does: Horrifying!<<< Not really. It's just the fact that Disney is operating in this day and age without any regard to their own standards.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Uber-fan opinion of ANYTHING Disney does: Horrifying!<<< Not really. It's just the fact that Disney is operating in this day and age without any regard to their own standards.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Manfried...I've been thinking the same thing. While I enjoyed Adventurer's Club AND the Comedy Warehouse I didn't spend much money at either one. I suspect a lot of the "regulars" didn't either. So, you go back to when there was an admission price for the Island and in the beginning it was a big hit. They eliminated the admission price as attendance started to freefall but that did nothing to increase sales in the individual clubs. You have to think that both the Comedy Warehouse and the Adventurer's Club were the two costliest clubs to run because of the staffing levels. I don't think the "entertainers" in either place were making minimum wage. In fact, I recall talking to one of the comedians who said he had a contract. I'm assuming the actors in the Adventurer's Club had a similar arrangement. So, in two clubs that had to really count on alcohol sales to pay for the operation it doesn't seem a stretch to think that they couldn't make ends meet. But, I'm sure I am injecting way too much common sense into the discussion.
