Originally Posted By wahooskipper Ok, so who is going to book the new Four Seasons on property? And, I am interested hear how they will handle transportation to the parks. Will it be a shuttle van, bus, limo?
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ The only reason that WDW Co. went chasing after the bottom of the market was to capture guests and push them up the value chain. All Stars were deliberately basic to sell Port Orleans, Dixie Landings and Caribbean Beach. And boy does it work.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>It takes frakking forever.<<< Not really. And it provides for a GREAT view. The Monorail is great, but the boats offer a great alternative.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I don't get on a plane and travel 3,000 miles to stay in luxurious accommodations when I can stay right here in my own house in California. I go to WDW for the parks, eats and saturation of Disney. So naturally I want to be as close to the parks as possible. <<<< The Hilton I stay at is 5 mins away from property, 10 from EPCOT, without traffic. And it's a nice hotel. Nicer than Pop. I'd rather have that, even if it doesn't have the "DISNEY BRANDING" everywhere.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Not really. And it provides for a GREAT view. The Monorail is great, but the boats offer a great alternative. >> I've stayed there twice. The boat from WL to MK takes forever to get to the resort to pick people up. Are you talking about the ferry boat?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ Stayed where? I'm just talking about the Boats from the TTC to the MK... LOL.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I am always curious if more folks move up resorts as they grow in life>> Yes, that is what we did. Started at the All Stars, then moved up to the moderates, then to Deluxe and DVC. My absolute favorite non-DVC resort is Dixie Landings (Port Orleans Riverside).
Originally Posted By Christi22222 ^^Lol, EE! I may be an on site loyalist, but I'll stop short of calling Disney resorts 'heaven' if off site is purgatory!
Originally Posted By Mr X ***But EPCOT Ex., I just layed out my reasons so it should be very easy to understand*** I should always expect this, as Barboy has a unique way of laying out a compelling case and then, at the last minute, going over the top with it. I agreed with your reasoning UNTIL you got to preferring to stay at an All-Stars motel for $80 rather than the free Disney resort off property. You say "location location location", but the All-Star location sucks. It's not near any of the parks, and assuming you rely on busses (do you?), the trouble of getting to the parks can be far more time consuming and annoying (not to mention getting back at night) than if you took that $80 and got yourself a nice Cadillac for your stay. PLUS, you'd likely be in the parks quicker AND you get to stay in an immersive Disney hotel to boot. Just off property. So, is it JUST the fact you might have to spend 5-10 minutes on a "non-Disney" road that makes all the difference to you?
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Could be worse, in Paris, they got rid of Clint Eastwood on the Bill Boards and replaced him with cars. << Blasphemy. Shows everything that's wrong with this company.
Originally Posted By Mr X >>I don't care that there is a Waldorf-Astoria at Bonnet Creek or the 5-Star Gaylord just off-property - I want something different to what I'm used to when I'm on-property. I know that the deluxe hotels and even the GF don't compare to real world offerings like St. Regis, Four Seasons, Ritz-Carlton or W - and I don't care. I don't need those perks (spa etc.) when I'm at WDW.<< Yes, but the question is what if it were a DISNEY resort, and an incredible one, located somewhere around 15 miles away.
Originally Posted By avimagine Small problem with the Caddy Mr X, barboy wants only Asian brands, regrets his Euro car remember? Hypothetically, let's say Disney contracted out the management of say one of the Grand Floridian/Contemporary/Poly where location is King to another hotel company would you at that property if it was better / run and cheaper or would you still go to the Disney owned and operated locals?
Originally Posted By Mr X I've got a better hypothetical avi. Two, actually. For the folks who voted "on property or bust!", what's your answer to the following. A) The aforementioned off property 6-star Disney Mega resort, recently voted best hotel on the planet by all industry experts, also happens to boast a unique and never before seen Disney ATTRACTION, available only to hotel guests. Would ya still skip it, even if free, in favor of the All-Stars? B) Due to an odd series of property lawsuits or something (think Swan Dolphin on steroids), ALL of the current Disney resorts, from All Stars to the Grand, are forced to relocate to something like 15-20 miles "off property". Everything but the hotels remains exactly the same. The space formally occupied by all the Disney hotels is turned into Motel 6's, thousands and thousands of non-Disney motel 6's. So, for a and b, what would it be? Still gotta have that location thing?
Originally Posted By Mr X ***available only to hotel guests*** Only to THAT particular hotel's guests, not to any other guests of other Disney resorts.
