Originally Posted By Kylesmom Wow, I need to avoid the World Events topics. Mass generalities flying back and forth all over the place, it's rediculous. The conservatives in my family are polite and mindful of others feelings and so are the liberals. Manners come from up-bringing, not political affiliation.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Kylesmom, I think most of the comments are being aimed at specific posters, not really trying to generalize (however they do come accross that way). Also, I don't think it's the cracking down on offensive postings that's made things slow on these boards. I've noticed that the entire discussion board is much slower than it ever used to be...I have a feeling quite a few posters have "migrated" to other boards...
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF I understand what you're saying, Kylesmom, and I would agree with you. I would be the first to admit that my delivery sometimes needs work. For a while now, this hasn't been a forum for honest discussion. It's about who's the loudest, who can outdo whom, and who will ultimately win out. One can say the same things over and over only so many times before tempers flare. Then we have the thread hijackers. Over in the "Liberals booted" thread, a poster just HAD to throw a dig in about gay marriage, so I predict by the end of the day we'll have yet again another back-and-forth on gay marriage where nothing new is said by anyone.
Originally Posted By Admin When I come into a topic and have to admin and delete more than 5 posts in a row I do consider closing the topic. This week I even closed a topic for awhile, hoping everybody had cooled down some I reopened it and the discussion started right where it left off. I had to come back in and admin and remove posts again so it got closed for good. Most of the time when a topic is closed it is because it has gone so far off topic and has disintegrated into name calling. You are more than welcome to start another topic on that subject. The past two weeks have shown the return of much name calling and personal attacks. We have made it clear that we will not tolerate the personal attacks. My advice, if you don't want a topic closed then stay on topic and keep things civil.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy This place is civil. I know you have to draw a line someplace, but your killing free speech in the name of political correctness and the entire section, as easily predicted, is dying. I suppose we can go chat about the wonder known as the peoplemover track instead.
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Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<Free speech does not equal being an ass, Beau. Learn the difference.>> Beau is not the only person here guilty of this. And no this is not a direct attack on you Mele.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I can accept a well reasoned argument that: * Iraq is a necessary part of the war on terror and in the end will be successful * Gay marriage may not be the best way to guarantee legal equality of gay and heterosexual relationships. * Our approach to solving poverty over the past 50 years has not eliminated poverty, and perhaps new approaches should be tried. * That even with recent tax cuts for the top brackets the vast majority of taxes in this country are still paid by the wealthy. I can accept a well reasoned argument in any of those areas. I may not agree with it, but I will at least try to be open minded enough to try to hear what the person is saying. What do people here get in return when they try to post a well reasoned liberal argument? They get "Libs are socialists whose beliefs make it impossible for them to be good Christians and whose lack of ideas is the reason they always lose elections and are really good for nothing other than working at Starbucks". When you hear that crap no matter WHAT the discussion is, you start to get a little tired of it. That is why I haven't posted much in WE lately. Why bother?
Originally Posted By peeaanuut <<but your killing free speech in the name of political correctness and the entire section>> Free speach doesnt exist here. The owners of the site can limit whatever they want. But Im surprised they let alot of the name calling and bad mouthing and insults go as long as they do. I suggest that if your not happy here Beau and others, why not simply move on?
Originally Posted By Admin You are more than welcome to have your free speech elsewhere. This is a site owned by people who have set rules. If you don't want to follow the rules then you are not welcome to post here. This is not a political thing. I don't take one side over the other. There are guidelines I follow that were set by the owners of this site.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<They get "Libs are socialists whose beliefs make it impossible for them to be good Christians and whose lack of ideas is the reason they always lose elections and are really good for nothing other than working at Starbucks".>> And how is that statement any different from this one: <<For a right-winger, the golden rule means, "I have the gold, so I make the rules.">> To me it's the same record being played just a different side.
Originally Posted By Elderp "You are more than welcome to have your free speech elsewhere. This is a site owned by people who have set rules. If you don't want to follow the rules then you are not welcome to post here. This is not a political thing. I don't take one side over the other. There are guidelines I follow that were set by the owners of this site. " You guys in my opinion are so relaxed that if they are making you mad they deserve to be booted. This is a Disney fan site at its core and in that it is going to generate people of all ages. It is almost a fiduciary duty of this site to see that all those people who might come to this site feel safe. Sorry but that is not free speech but that is the way it has got to be and if it ceases to be I know I for one will be out.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut Im actually surprised that this section was added. I mean other than to corral these topics and not have to spend all day deleting non disney posts, this section serves to direct added value to this site.
Originally Posted By alexbook Beaumandy: "I suppose we can go chat about the wonder known as the peoplemover track instead." I sort of thought the point of laughingplace.com was to let Disney fans chat about stuff like the Peoplemover. I can get political "debates" anywhere.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 But it would be rather boring everyone thought the same. And it in all honesty does it really bother anyone what on these boards truly thinks. I know for a fact that I'm proably never going to meet any of you people. I enjoy chatting with you guys. But if someone "insults" me, on a message board, it's not going to ruin my day.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I come to LP mostly to read about DL and other Disney topics. I didn't even know there WAS a WE area for at least a year. Finally I noticed that some posts on the DL or DCA boards were being led off topic; people claiming Eisner was no good because he was a Democrat, which got a response, which got a counter-response... or people talking about gay day at DL in derogatory terms, for instance - and then they got moved to WE or someone would say "Hey! If you want that kind of argument, take it to WE!" For that reason alone, I think WE serves a useful purpose on LP. So anyway, I discovered WE, and found I really enjoyed it at its best. Strangely enough, I liked it better for political discussions than websites I'd found that were overtly political, as most of them seemed to be either heavily conservative with a few token liberals, or vice versa. Which gets old fast. WE has plenty of both, plus (gasp!) some real moderates, who were in short supply on the other sites. At its worst, though, it can get tiring for anyone, and I would say that its worst is exactly as RoadTrip described; when posters stop addressing the matter at hand and just go on with a rant about libs or cons in general. And/or get nasty and violate community standards. But at its best I like WE a lot.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy This is a Disney site, but this is not a Disney section. You would think that people who love Disney would learn that making the Jungle Cruise and Pirates were almost ruined by being PC. Same rule applies here in this section.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I think you're confusing "political correctness" with good manners. Similarly, posting something that is intended to enrage someone isn;'t the same as making a political point or observation.
