Originally Posted By dshyates "It still would have been a big whoop-de-doo in her neck of the woods, so to speak." It probably wouldn't have made the BBC. <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/americas/2008/vote_usa_2008/7592636.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_...2636.stm</a> Or the Times of India: <a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Palin_drama_stokes_US_mommy_war/articleshow/3441867.cms" target="_blank">http://timesofindia.indiatimes...1867.cms</a>
Originally Posted By mawnck Perhaps not, but this is a 17-year-old girl who's been in the public eye for several years, and should have some idea of what's what. She's not really the victim here. We could even be accusing *her* of spoiling the political career of her mother. I feel *slightly* sorry for her, insofar as this has no doubt gotten bigger than she reasonably expected, but that's about the extent of it.
Originally Posted By dshyates "We could even be accusing *her* of spoiling the political career of her mother." Except, she is 17. And by the kind of scandal she created, I don't believe it was intentional or malicious. Careless and irresponsible are more applicable.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 <a href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/51459.html" target="_blank">http://www.mcclatchydc.com/hom...459.html</a> Whew boy - a true 18 year old...that last line bods for a long relationship, as I said the odds aren't good. Aye yi yi! The boyfriend of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter describes himself as a "redneck who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes.'' The description appears in a profanity-laden entry posted by Levi Johnston in his MySpace account. The entry was made private over the weekend, but not before several media outlets published parts of it. Johnston, 18, is believed to be the father of Palin's 17-year-old daughter Bristol's baby. On Monday, Palin revealed that the unwed Bristol is five months pregnant. In a statement, Palin and her husband said the young couple will marry soon. But in Johnston's MySpace entry, the teenager hints that fatherhood was not in his immediate plans. Johnston says he is ''in a relationship,'' but on the question about how he feels about children he said: "I don't want kids.'' He also says his true love is ice hockey. Here's part of his entry before it was made private: 'I'm a f--kin' redneck who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes. But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s--t and just f--kin' chillin' I guess. Ya f--k with me I'll kick ass." Status: "In a relationship.'' Children: "I don't want kids.''
Originally Posted By dshyates Dad of the year material, right there. This just keeps gettin' better n' better. I liked this part: "Ya f--k with me I'll kick ass." Well, at least they are in the right party. The GOP is all about Chillaxin' with the guys and Kickin' Ass.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I think the statement about how thrilled they are to be grandparents is a load of nonsense. I've been through this in my own family, and the reaction is always disbelief, anger, then eventually accepting that this is going to happen. Do you have a baby shower? Is it a "celebration" and does that just make it all acceptable and okay now? Does that send a mixed message to younger kids in the family? All I'm saying is, it isn't as neat and tidy as they'd like it to appear. But it's their own business ultimately. Unless they start flinging the family values stuff around too much, then all bets are off. And in the interest of the daughter, I don't like this rush to the alter business. You don't need to compound a mistake by making a bigger mistake. No way should an 18 and 17 year old be encouraged to marry.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I've been through this in my own family, and the reaction is always disbelief, anger, then eventually accepting that this is going to happen.<< Of course, that's the same reaction to Thanksgiving gatherings in my family, too, so...
Originally Posted By Lisann22 LOL - I've started to boycott the baby showers in my family for unplanned underage pregnancies. I don't go to many anymore.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***You don't need to compound a mistake by making a bigger mistake. No way should an 18 and 17 year old be encouraged to marry. 28*** Dear lord K2M what are you saying!? You want these youngsters going to hell?? Good grief, get those kids into a church IMMEDIATELY and fix their sin, it's THE ONLY WAY to save them! <--returns bible to holster.
Originally Posted By PJ82858 Who said that they are being encouraged by their parents to get married? You know what happens when you assume.
Originally Posted By Mr X Well, gee...you think that was Levi's call? Mister "I don't wanna have kids". Doubt it.
Originally Posted By PJ82858 Well gee...this may be the first time a pregnant girl wants to get married and the boy doesn't.
Originally Posted By utahjosh Sarcasm on. I can't believe we are going to let her be punished with a baby. Sarcasm off
Originally Posted By Mr X You think it's a good thing for a 17 year old high school girl to have a kid, Josh? I sure don't. Not for the Mom, the Dad, the families, and certainly not for the baby.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan This particular baby has nothing to worry about. It already has a staff and press agent by now. ; )
Originally Posted By ecdc Yes, as tough as it is for Bristol, this baby will do just fine. Except it's in a small minority of babies born to single teenage moms. Most won't be so lucky. Most will be born into poverty, live their lives in poverty, and then die in poverty. Republicans seem mighty concerned about the baby while it's in the mother's womb, but they're quick to forget about it once its born.
Originally Posted By ecdc Jon Stewart was on a roll tonight. He had Newt Gingrich on and really challenged him on whether this really was a private matter. Stewart said that his problem was, as the parent of a daughter, that the Palin's are saying this is a private matter, please respect that, then please elect me so I can tell you exactly what your daughter can and can't do in the same situation. He pointed out that Palin is on record as saying she would veto any abortion bill including that which allowed it in case of rape or incest. It was a powerful statement. Good for him.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>the Palin's are saying this is a private matter, please respect that, then please elect me so I can tell you exactly what your daughter can and can't do in the same situation.<< Ouch.
