Originally Posted By DlandDug Except, of course, when one is wrong. Some here deplore those who insist their opinion is a fact, yet turn right around and insist that their opinion is not only fact, but a foregone conclusion. Specifically, that the changes to DCA are not only not unprecedented, but that there does not exist even the possibility they could be unprecedented! I've presented my opinion to anyone who is cares to read it, and am more than willing to leave it at that. (Still shoulda left it alone at Post #20...)
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "Some here deplore those who insist their opinion is a fact, yet turn right around and insist that their opinion is not only fact, but a foregone conclusion. Specifically, that the changes to DCA are not only not unprecedented, but that there does not exist even the possibility they could be unprecedented!" Nope, never did that. That's what the whiole presenting my opinion and then saying "agree to disagree" thing is about. (Which WD got, anyway).
Originally Posted By Dabob2 But those who posit that someone is "wrong," full stop, don't seem to get.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Many many years from now, long after I'm dead and gone, the debate about who was right and who was wrong and how bad or not bad DCA was or still is will still be raging on. This is the subject that just will not die.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<This is the subject that just will not die.>> DCA is simply a mistake ridden curiosity. It will be discussed for years to come on fan sites like LP. So what?
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >This is the subject that just will not die.< It might eventually die. I mean we don't talk about how Pirates didn't work day 1 anymore.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "DCA is simply a mistake ridden curiosity. It will be discussed for years to come on fan sites like LP. So what?" You get on my nerves. That's what.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I don't think I have ever seen so much waste of keyboard action as this thread has been. Yes, they did! No, they didn't! I think I will add my part. Who the hell cares? Arguing over already processing situations is without any possible results and certainly can get boring. Why don't you guys just text one another and fight it out that way. If DCA was a mistake...so be it. Will the new park be any better...I'm afraid that unless you are clairvoyant, you have no way of knowing. You might make an educated guess but that is the closest you can get to accuracy. Have you read about how many people thought Disneyland was going to ruin and bankrupt Disney? They were wrong weren't they. I know, I know...I don't have to read it and that is my intention going forward, but, gees Louise, what possible difference does it really make if a theme park action is unprecedented or not. It is what it is. Get a grip.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I know, I know...I don't have to read it and that is my intention going forward, but, gees Louise, what possible difference does it really make if a theme park action is unprecedented or not. It is what it is. Get a grip." This.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 The "possible difference" is some people still have this strange need to be "proven right" from 10 or more years ago (as opposed to accepting that opinions can differ, and that's okay). And this insistence that there is only one "correct" opinion here is what irks me, and yeah I went on too long about it. Cuz I'm irked, durnit.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "The "possible difference" is some people still have this strange need to be "proven right" from 10 or more years ago (as opposed to accepting that opinions can differ, and that's okay)." This too.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "The "possible difference" is some people still have this strange need to be "proven right" from 10 or more years ago" Both sides are attempting to be proven right.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<DCA is simply a mistake ridden curiosity.>> Agree! But they are making up for it!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "Both sides are attempting to be proven right." I only see one "side" claiming that dissenting opinions are "ludicrous" and worse.
Originally Posted By crapshoot << . . . . the debate about who was right and who was wrong and how bad or not bad DCA was or still is will still be raging on.>> Orange County Register: November 9th, 2010, 8:25 am "Bob Iger, the president and chief executive officer who took over the company in 2005, told the (Wall Street) Journal that Disney California Adventure was mediocre when it opened almost 10 years ago. WSJ: You're spending $1 billion to overhaul Disney California Adventure, Disneyland's less-famous neighbor. Why? Mr. Iger: [Apple CEO] Steve Jobs is fond of talking about brand deposits and brand withdrawals. Any time you do something mediocre with your brand, that's a withdrawal. California Adventure was a brand withdrawal." Gettin' a headache yet Dr. Reinhardt?
Originally Posted By WorldDisney And why i like iger a little more. He can admit DCA was a huge turkey because he didnt approve of it. But if Eisner was still in char, he would never admit even that! "Brand wihdrawel" is being as nice as possble. Would love to hear whats said behind closed doors! Never knew he sad that thouh. First time i heard it. Pretty revealing but nt surprisng in the least!
