Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Yeah but you devote your whole life to Disney, I only think of it occasionally. In yo face!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Hmmm, let's see. so many things to pick up on. Donuts taste good, but did you know, 9 Dunkin Donuts are actually less fatty than a Denny's Grand Slam breakfast? Vampires vs. werewolves - normally I would say vampires are sexier, unless we are talking Twighlight, Jacob is far better than Edward in almost every way. USF vs. USH - I prefer USH to all movie theme parks around the globe (and yes there are others besides Disney and Universal). USH actually has learning experiences and sites worth seeing. Love it, though not as much now that there are very few shows (still miss Conan and the Wild Wild Wild West Stunt Show). MGM/DHS is my least favorite of the Disney/Universal parks. Yes, I prefer WDSP to DHS, heck, I would rather be at WDSP than the MK. I prefer DL and California to WDW. Better quality, better weather, nicer people, and lots of other interesting things to see in the area. Heck, Knott's is closer to DL than some of the WDW parks are to each other. Am I the only one that doesn't find WDW a convenient place? MGM would have been a failure in DLR, even more than DCA I reckon.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo well to some. DCA is still better than 50% of the parks in WDW IMHO.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***well to some. DCA is still better than 50% of the parks in WDW IMHO*** To add to my "bah", sorry, but your low opinion of the Magic Kingdom in Florida doesn't hold water when it comes to comparing it to DCA (and claiming DCA superior). First and foremost, the Magic Kingdom IS a Magic Kingdom and thus gets about a million props for following Walt Disney's example. Secondly, just the approach to the place ALONE destroys DCA a million ways over. Then, you have Main Street U.S.A. with the horses and the castle, nothing in DCA comes close (across the way, they have it...but DCA has nothing like it). As for special experiences at the Magic Kingdom that blow away anything at DCA, you need only look to Liberty Square. That area ALONE is better than anything at DCA, and the forbodding visage of the Haunted Mansion off in the distance makes DCA look, well, pretty Mickey Mouse to say the least. Add to that all the unique and interesting and fun aspects of the other lands, big and small, and DCA becomes 6-flags pretty quick (but without all the cool roller coasters). Then you have the negatives of DCA, which only diminish the place. Sorry, my friend. But you're rolling the dice a little too hard trying to claim that DCA stacks up to the Magic Kingdom. Better stick with the MGM/DCA comparisons if you want a fair fight. Heck, DCA doesn't even stack up to pathetic HKDL, for many of the above reasons.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Big difference. At the MK i cannot go across the esplanade to Disneyland or DLP. At DCA or WDSP I can Liberty Square and to a lesser degree, some parks of Tomorrowland are the only parts of the MK I like really. I would argue that the Golden State area is actually more appealing than Liberty Square. this is all down to personal taste, but that is my opinion.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Let's do a must do attraction count for me: MK: Jungle cruise, Country Bears, Splash Mountain, Hall of Presidents, Haunted Mansion, Carousel of Progress, People Mover. 7 attractions. 8 if we count Wishes. The rest are subpar to DLP or DL versions. DCA: Soarin', Grizzly, Screamin', WOC, ITTBAB, Muppetvision 3D, Animation, Aladdin, ToT - 9. Add in Little Mermaid and Carsland when it opens, there are more compelling attractions at DCA for me. This doesn't count things like MOnster Inc, Playhouse Disney (which the kids still love) and the factory tours (which my wife loves), or TSMM, which although not appealing to me, is very popular.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost When I visited UniH in 2005 the backlot was the highlight of the tour. The trams had TV's and as you got to an area that had notable history, the TV would show the clip of the movie/TV show, in relation to where you presently were. I thought that was great because I don't remember a lot of movies unless I have a visual clue. That is something that Disney/MGM could never have. So why pay money to see a cardboard cutout when you could see the real thing? Oh, sure they had the false front street with the Golden Girls house and they promoted it as if that was the actual house that you saw on TV even though it was built a year or so after they stopped filming the show or at least very late into it's run and the Bette Midler movie (The Lottery, I think), but that was it. It just didn't have that feel of being where it actually happened that Universal H could provide. You will notice that Universal O didn't even try. I remember before they completely cut apart and minimized the backlot tour at Disney/MGM they had areas where they had, at least what they said were, actual sets from movies and kinda did the same thing...show a clip while you were standing there looking at the set. That was cool, but when they abandoned that they left nothing but Catastrophe Canyon and Walt's Airplane. They even stopped queuing through the prop room. That ended the facade of Studio and then it became a Theme Park. Even today, I don't find that DHS is a full day park. I usually never devote much more than a half day to it. Of course, the old backlot tours used to last a couple of hours if you stopped and looked at everything. So in Anaheim, how could Disney possibly compete with that without it being on some historic Disney backlot. As someone has stated, it appears that the people of California aren't even interested in seeing the real thing, what would possibly draw them into cutout land?
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost ^^^Sorry, I meant to add in there someplace that this was my thought on why Disney/MGM would not have worked at all in place of DCA or certainly no better. Thank you...film at 11.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Exactly Gooyernmost. The GMR in a form may have worked, the attractions that might have are already at DCA. But DCA gives them far better scope.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<Spill it already.>> "Attention LPers, Attention LPers, there is a spill back on aisle 320!"
Originally Posted By Mr X ***The rest are subpar to DLP or DL versions*** That's a pretty weak argument, unless you are saying that you skip all others entirely just because you can see them elsewhere. Subpar or not (and in some cases that's quite subjective, in others not so much), the other signature attractions EXIST in the Magic Kingdom and are part of the mix. So to create a "must see" list and list almost all of DCA but only a fraction of the Magic Kingdom is not very compelling.
Originally Posted By Mr X Not to mention the fact that 4 of your 9 "must see" DCA attractions CAN be found in WDW, just not in the Magic Kingdom. I know I moved the bar just then, but still... Just sayin.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo My point is, I do not like the MK versions of the better attractions found at DLP and DL. Hence my preference to go to those resorts. Yes, you can park hop in WDW, but the reality for me is there are less than a dozen compelling attractions for me at WDW that cannot be found in Europe or California. That is my point here. Hence why I prefer DCA to MK, I can walk across the esplanade and ride a decent version of Pirates of the Caribbean or It's a Small World. Or if in WDSP, I can ride the very best versions (IMHO) of Phantom Manor, Big Thunder, PotC, IASW, Space Mountain etc. Whereas I get ticked off at the inferiority of the Fla versions, and I don't want to have to get on a crappy bus to go between parks.
