Originally Posted By buried20kleague <<It does not sit well with me. At all. Its a blue alien impersonating a dog... That doesn't exactly scream antiquated colonialism and ancient culture to me. The setting and characters don't match despite Stitch's backstory. >> Eh. I disagree. I don't think it's any more out of place in the Tiki Room in Adventureland than it is currently in Tomorrowland. And the end result would be a better show if the AA was repurposed, I'm for it. And I can see the tie between Stitch and the Tiki Room fine, personally.
Originally Posted By buried20kleague <<And the end result would be a better show if the AA was repurposed, I'm for it.>> "IF", not "and". This not being able to edit thing sucks.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>Eh. I disagree. I don't think it's any more out of place in the Tiki Room in Adventureland than it is currently in Tomorrowland.<< How's that? Aliens and Sci Fi fit TL... in Adventureland, the land is more focused on colonialism, clashes with it, and the existing, antiquated indigenous culture. The tiki room is the latter... It's the magic in that. So... How does Stitch fit that?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<The original show works over in DL, it can work here, too.>> They're different animals. While I don't think that's a good reason for not doing things like seasonal overlays, it is here. Old things brought back just aren't goin to get WDW's guests excited. It's the reason EO's merch barely sells here and it flies off the shelves in DL.
Originally Posted By buried20kleague <<How's that? Aliens and Sci Fi fit TL... in Adventureland, the land is more focused on colonialism, clashes with it, and the existing, antiquated indigenous culture. The tiki room is the latter... It's the magic in that. So... How does Stitch fit that?>> It would go back to the age old argument of what Tomorrowland is. Is it supposed to be Sci-Fi, or is it supposed to be about TOMORROW? I'd admit that SGE fits into a Sci-Fi vision... I just don't think the land should be about Sci-Fi. I think it's supposed to be about Tomorrow. And like I said, Stitch can fit into the Tiki room over there by making it about Hawaii, and his love of Elvis, and the Hawaiian feel. Don't make it about his being an alien. Make it about Ohana, and the land he lives in and music he loves. It's really not that far a stretch.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA I remember seeing some artist renderings of a proposed re-do of the Tiki Room back in the late 80s. My memories are sketchy, but I do remember a 'Danny DeVito' bird and a 'Bette Midler' bird. I didn't like what little I saw of it.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> My memories are sketchy, but I do remember a 'Danny DeVito' bird and a 'Bette Midler' bird. << Sounds like something that would've been devised during the early MGM-Studios phase. And, yes, it sounds quite horrible.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> They're different animals. While I don't think that's a good reason for not doing things like seasonal overlays, it is here. Old things brought back just aren't goin to get WDW's guests excited. It's the reason EO's merch barely sells here and it flies off the shelves in DL.<<< I don't see where the notion that EO is doing poorly is regarded as fact. It's playing to decent crowds, the new plush (lol) have sold out twice already. The merch car had quite a few customers during the half hour I took on a nice FW West Bench. MSEP was brought back and played to two packed shows all summer. I see no reason that would keep crowds away from a refreshed and "retro" Tiki Room.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> It would go back to the age old argument of what Tomorrowland is. Is it supposed to be Sci-Fi, or is it supposed to be about TOMORROW? I'd admit that SGE fits into a Sci-Fi vision... I just don't think the land should be about Sci-Fi. I think it's supposed to be about Tomorrow. And like I said, Stitch can fit into the Tiki room over there by making it about Hawaii, and his love of Elvis, and the Hawaiian feel. Don't make it about his being an alien. Make it about Ohana, and the land he lives in and music he loves.<<< Tomorrowland hasn't actively been about real Futurism since 1994. And it certainly isn't in 2011! That's EPCOT's job now. (And it doesn't do it well in most places...) And for Stitch... almost none of those things fit into the story and theme of Adventureland. It's a land in the past, it's based in colonialism and the indigenous cultures and myths of the natives. Modern music, like Elvis, doesn't exist. And it has everything to do with him being an alien. He's a main character dropped into a setting and time that don't fit him. How would you feel if Stitch loved Jazz and was dropped into New Orleans Square in Disneyland? Or Stitch playing a fife and drum in a regiment of regulars in Liberty Square? His character doesn't match the setting or idea that drives the theme of the area.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> I don't see where the notion that EO is doing poorly is regarded as fact. It's playing to decent crowds, the new plush (lol) have sold out twice already. << Captain EO plush? *shudder*
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ Fuzzball and Hooter. It's not terrible.... ....But I certainly wouldn't be caught dead with one.
Originally Posted By leobloom ^^Of course not. It's not your beloved Figment plush that you clutch while crying during the Wishes finale. At least, that's what I hear.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA I have a plush called 'Hooter' -- but it ain't from Disneyland -- Ba-duh-BOOM!
Originally Posted By avimagine This one? <a href="http://tinyurl.com/hootermerced" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/hootermerced</a>
Originally Posted By leobloom Yeah, don't you know Jim values his privacy. And now you're broadcast a picture of him for all of LP to see. For shame, avimagine.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>It's not your beloved Figment plush that you clutch while crying during the Wishes finale.<<< It's the RoE finale. We've been over this. Get it right!!!! >>>This one? <a href="http://tinyurl.com/hootermerced<<<<" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/hootermerce...<<</a> How did you find a picture of Spirit!??!?!
Originally Posted By avimagine Wait no that's the famous Pittsburg Left (Turn in front of traffic) model, not the Disney model. N/M. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/tikihooter" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/tikihooter</a> You know though with technology like I said many years ago, with shows like this couldn't they utilize multiple scripts (even without RF), say rotate the opening song, etc.
Originally Posted By hopemax Wait! They have a Hooter plush now? I didn't see one in Oct, and I looked for one. In 1988, I was standing in front of a shelf at the store in the Disneyland Hotel debating between the Hooter that was on sale, but would be all of my vacation money, and the Dumbo that would leave me with a little something to buy a T-shirt. I choose the Dumbo, but I have wanted a Hooter ever since.
