Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney "My custodial complaint is in the restrooms. I can remember walking in ALWAYS being amazed that they were so clean and never smelled -- there was never toilet paper on the floors or water all over the counters and they smelled like they had just been cleaned. Today the restrooms are filthy and they smell. I make my daughter wear skirts so her shorts don't hit the ground when she puuls them down to use the toilet. But some of the blame for this goes to the huge number of guests that pass through WDW gates each day that have absolutely no respect for anything. Keeping up with them would be difficult without budget cuts. My point is that anyone who thinks the parks were just as dirty before as they are now needs to think a little harder about their definition of clean vs dirty." Well put Minnie. WDW's bathrooms used to sparkle all the time and there would always be a CM in every one working to keep it that way. Now, most often at the Studios and MK, the restrooms aren't dirty. They are filthy. They are unacceptable.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Well, I'm not a troll...I've been here a long time and I can tell you that the worst the MK ever was, in my recollection was in the early 90's. I remember seeing trash, smelling garbage and everything being a general mess. Compared to that MK is squeaky clean now. I even had some rancid catsup that trip. Not a pristine memory at all. And when I went back in and said, "I can't eat my hot dog because the catsup in the packets was rancid" all they said was "how Awful" No offer to replace the hot dog, nothing. I just threw it away and have never been back to eat there since.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Whoa ! 2 ID's again for the same person ? Goofy gone schizo ? Am I reading this right or making a mistake ? Oh Brother ! and for someone that can remember a catsup package from the 90's , I'd have to say selective memory on everything else, not anything else.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 One opened Nov 2001 and the more sugary, everything is beautiful ID opened January of 2005 -- for what reason ? To troll ?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Lately...Seems we have had more Trolls on the LP boards than in a Norwegian bar at happy hour!!!
Originally Posted By basas He is not the first to pass this way...nor will he be the last…but for those who seek to troll on Laughing Place will find members like TDLFan and LuvDatDisney to fill every hole in their fictional stories and eventually… they will ‘disappear’. Disappear! Disappear! Be gone!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Lately...Seems we have had more Trolls on the LP boards than in a Norwegian bar at happy hour!!!, rim shot - LOL !
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I'd love to go back to 1986... when you could SMOKE ANYWHERE!! (I've quit... the anti-smoking crowd bugs me though...)
Originally Posted By Lewis Goofy <<Whoa ! 2 ID's again for the same person ?<< <<One opened Nov 2001 and the more sugary, everything is beautiful ID opened January of 2005 -- for what reason ? To troll ?<< Me and Goofyernmost are not the same person I know nothing of rancid catsup packets. I do not know why my positive post stir up such negitive comments to the point of name calling and my creditability is questioned.
Originally Posted By Lewis Goofy <<I can't speak for LuvDatDisney but I have had several custodial CM on duty at the park tell me so when I have inquired..and they are willing to tell me what's going on because I am that important a guest ..plus they are willing to add that "management do not care either". I believe it.<< Exactly what disgruntled cm's would say. They should be reported. They give the rest of us a bad name.
Originally Posted By Lewis Goofy <<Walt always gave his audience credit for having brains. He tried to educate, often, as well as entertain.<< He did...you have not seen any of his live action movies then. I don't think Walt would have said ''fellas, let's just sell cheap pins and plush in every shop, to hell with the story we're trying to tell.''<< The pins released do fit in with the story. They are usually released for a certain event.
Originally Posted By Lewis Goofy <<There may a drought going on in Florida. But as I was in WDW last month, I can assure you there is plenty of water on WDW property! I never realized just how many lakes, canals and drainage ditches there are. And there was water everywhere. Another thing I noticed was how much water this is in EPCOT. EPCOT has plenty of foutains. So I don't buy the "there's a drought going on excuse". Disney has water, lots of it!<< Just proves that our conservation efforts are working.
Originally Posted By Lewis Goofy << It may not be a fact you can google or look up in a dictionary, but it's a fact nonetheless.<< Not fact just opinion, and opinion coming from two ex CM's (TDLFAN & LuvDatDisney) I take with a grain of salt. Not that they don't know WDW but they do post with an agenda.
Originally Posted By Lewis Goofy <<WDW has turned Central Florida into a servive economy where most jobs pay under $10 an hour with no benefits (free theme park tix nonwithstanding).<< Another half truth. Most jobs are part time and do pay under $10 an hour. But compare us with most employers in central Florida and you will find that we have the highest starting wage in the area. Also benefits for our full time Cast Members exceed anything offered by other employers in the Orlando area.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<<Whoa ! 2 ID's again for the same person ?<< <<One opened Nov 2001 and the more sugary, everything is beautiful ID opened January of 2005 -- for what reason ? To troll ?<< Me and Goofyernmost are not the same person I know nothing of rancid catsup packets. I do not know why my positive post stir up such negitive comments to the point of name calling and my creditability is questioned. < I asked if I was wrong ? Just wild that he answered a topic directed to and started by you....if it's not you,my apologies, but wierd why someone would jump in on your topic one way or the other.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney <<Walt always gave his audience credit for having brains. He tried to educate, often, as well as entertain.<< "He did...you have not seen any of his live action movies then." An insult? Yawn. I don't think Walt would have said ''fellas, let's just sell cheap pins and plush in every shop, to hell with the story we're trying to tell.''<< "The pins released do fit in with the story. They are usually released for a certain event." Work as a merchandising CM do you? There's no story whatsoever behind pins, beyond making obscene amounts of money on something that costs a few dimes to make (if that). Why don't you explain how turning the Frontierland Trading Post into a pin shop helps tell a story ... dying to hear that one. "Just proves that our conservation efforts are working." No. It just proves all the conservation tales are tall ones. PR spin. If Disney wanted to be a good corporate citizen maybe they'd stop bulldozing forests to build new hotels and timeshares.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney << It may not be a fact you can google or look up in a dictionary, but it's a fact nonetheless.<< "Not fact just opinion, and opinion coming from two ex CM's (TDLFAN & LuvDatDisney) I take with a grain of salt. Not that they don't know WDW but they do post with an agenda." No, Goofball, fact. And get your facts straight. I have never been a Disney CM. Never. Ever. Neither has my significant other. Children? Nope. Friends? Yes ... many past, some present. And I absolutely post with an agenda. Do you know what it is? I'll tell you ... it's for WDW to live up to the standards it conditioned me -- and tens of millions of guests -- to expect. The same standards it still proudly touts in its marketing, PR and press relations. When I see something that goes against Disney standards, I'll point it out no matter who gets ticked off by it. The winds are changing in Burbank and Anaheim. Quality matters again. Creativity is valued again. It'll take longer to reach our little backwater Orlando, but it will, I have no doubt. And I will do my best to hasten its return.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney "Another half truth. Most jobs are part time and do pay under $10 an hour." You just agreed with me. MOST jobs are PART time and DO pay UNDER $10 an hour. I never said all. I said WDW has turned Orlando into a service economy and that isn't a good thing. All it takes is a terrorist attack or natural disaster(s) or recession and all those rooms will sit collecting dust and all those part-time CMs will be living in their cars or on the streets. "But compare us with most employers in central Florida and you will find that we have the highest starting wage in the area." Maybe it's because I'm paid well, but I don't think having a starting wage that's a quarter more than Sea World is worth bragging about. "Also benefits for our full time Cast Members exceed anything offered by other employers in the Orlando area." This I agree with in full. But look at how many full-time positions have been replaced by part-timers and even outsourced off the company payroll. But there's no arguing that Disney's full-time benefits are still terrific.
