Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I am more interested in mentioning this as a problem with the current technology and future technology being implemented. Not as a discussion about dining. Sorry for the detour I created. What else do we know about future Iger planning? Will this be offered to the deluxe guests only? Any info will be helpful beside it will be good because we are good at being good.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 for the record I hope they do not expand to rides etc... but fear the meet & greet if it works well will expand to live shows that sometimes are a pita to get into..Beauty & Best- Fantasmic / Nemo etc... Also even though I am an AP holder as well as DVC member I hope they do not segregate offerings by any hierarchal means -- or yet again an additional cost
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I am already starting to wonder about the new Be Our Guest dinner show in Fantasyland. How much do we really know? I am guessing it will be similar to the dining on the Disney cruise ship theming. I guess many will enjoy that but I do not want to find out that the new Little Mermaid Attraction and Beast's& Belle's dining room will be the demise of the real entertainment at HS.(Voyage of the Little Mermaid and B&theB Live).
Originally Posted By Bolna Mickeymouseclub, I understand what you mean, dealing with Disney online can be quite a hassle and therefore it isn't the best sign for anything more technological coming from them... But I think that actually the dining reservations system is quite a step forward and rather promising. They have eliminated quite a few bugs that were there in the beginning. And the new feature about not having two lunches/dinners at the same time as vbdad reported sounds like it works pretty well, too. So perhaps they are getting better? I have no idea either what else is planned for the future though. Would love to know myself...
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Right vbdad. I have seen posts of the STarTours and new MM Character Greet on Main Street FastPasses lately and they are just a general FP with no real return time just a FP with the date. I wonder if this is what guests will receive and print from their home computers? Is this the future that we are sampling today as an experiment?
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I know Disney is blocking duplicate reservations by the same guest name but if I have 3 rooms reserved and 3 different adult names to work with I can do a lot of duplicating just to cover my meal planning. Which I honestly thought about trying. Fortunately the only No Show for me was a later time/same day and I was able to cancel when I checked in.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 MMC - I do hope you're right but both the shows you mentioned might be on endangered lists-- not thatI want them to be. for whatever reason the last few years VotLM seems to have fallen out of favor. Lines not long at all like they used to be. I still find it a thoroughly cool show and a nice respite from the heat in summer months as well B&B stage show- we went for the first time in years last August and I really enjoyed it...but it wan't full on a jammed day either. Could it be these movies do not resonante with a lot of the audience because they are around 20 years from release. Those kids themovies were new for not yet parents ..and not attending ? Just a thought. that is a problem doing rides around specific movies- how do they age ? I wouldnot care if they replaced B&B with another stage show- if it was equally as good.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I think the new technology offers advancements over real people unfortunately. I will never agree to that thinking. It is important children (and adults) are introduced to the Live Stage performances at DIsney. SO sad to think that technology will reduce that. I imagine it will eventually affect fireworks too and seems to be already changing that.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I think the replacement of live entertainment is based on one factor and one factor only- cost. Now I think that stinks because live entertainment is critical to WDW in my opinion also. However look at the cost to see real people in the world -- a broadway play, heck an off broadway play, blue man group, curque de soleil, baseball games, football games etc... all out of control .....
Originally Posted By Bolna <<I think the new technology offers advancements over real people unfortunately.>> I agree! That's my fear exactly. Ever since I heard about the "personalization" that is supposed to come with Next Gen. Real interaction with real people is really wonderful. But it can't be replaced by a character (wether it is a walk around character or an AA in an attraction) knowing my name (which they would not know how to pronounce anyway) isn't personal. It might appear like a personal touch in the first place, but there isn't any true emotion behind it.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I think the replacement of live entertainment is based on one factor and one factor only- cost. Now I think that stinks because live entertainment is critical to WDW in my opinion also. However look at the cost to see real people in the world -- a broadway play, heck an off broadway play, blue man group, curque de soleil, baseball games, football games etc... all out of control .....>> VBDAD ... my old beloved cross-dressing pal ... you totally had me with the first two paragraphs. Then ... you blew it. Broadway ... concerts ... even NBA playoffs in Miami ... they've all struggled to fill seats because of their prices. Some concert tours have had locations dropped altogether due to that. But I HATE when people go in that direction as an excuse for WDW believing that foamheads=entertainment (only if you walk in on Brandon and Kyle is that truely the case!) ... sure it's Walmarted/LCD cheap homogenized entertainment. But someone will have to 'splain to a fool like myself how Disney back before the DVC gravytrain existed, back when there was only two and then three parks ... back when a trip cost vastly less (and please no arguments about staying on property ... someone spending $50 a night at the Holiday Inn were still paying less than someone paying $160 to stay at Port Orleans) in so may ways, that somehow, someway, Disney could offer real entertainers ... like the kind that ... um ... gulp ... have to be paid a certain wage due to unions. Just don't know how they were able to keep the lights on (and all the lightbulbs lit too). Oh, and Iger ... nope, not gonna say it right now.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 But I HATE when people go in that direction as an excuse for WDW believing that foamheads=entertainment (only if you walk in on Brandon and Kyle is that truely the case!) ... sure it's Walmarted/LCD cheap homogenized entertainment. ---- oh please don't misunderstand me o spirit of bygone WDW....I was just stating a fact. The 'people' that make up the live acts at WDW do notmake $15M-$20M a year to chase a baseball- roundball etc.. nor are they stars like some of the leads on boradway..so yes Disney should be able to afford it, and I think must to maintain the atmosphere the parks need. BUT, is it more expensive than alternatives- you bet. The majority of most companies bottom line expenses is personnel.. so I get that fact- but no do not give them a pass at WDW on this area.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Just don't know how they were able to keep the lights on (and all the lightbulbs lit too).<<< They've been doing better with the lightbulbs on MSUSA, lately. Can't wait to see them in a few weeks! LOL
Originally Posted By FerretAfros While the stuff that Iger talked about is a nice supplement to the content that Disney has created, it's no substitute for it. And so far during his tenure as CEO, he's made no real effort at developing any sort of content. I think that the stuff he's pushing for is good, and in important to the company (Disney does seem to be an industry leader in this sort of stuff, and seldom pushes their products toward a new technology that doesn't pan out), but it should be second place to creating new stuff. Without that stuff, there's nothing to sell in the various new forms of media. Nothing I've seen from Iger points to any sort of idea of that type of development happening any time soon. Just like Eisner's second decade without Wells to balance him out, it seem that Iger has some good ideas, but is suffering from tunnel-vision. To successfully run a global entertainment conglomerate like Disney, he needs to focus on the entertainment itself. The platforms for viewing the entertainment should come second. And this article brough up something that seemed to fall out of the media a while back: what ever happened to the 3D versions of various 2D animated features? I know that they put a ton of work into Beauty and the Beast, but then it just seemed to fall out of the spotlight. Did they finally realize that it was as pointless as everybody was trying to tell them? Did it ever get released? What about the other films slated for 3D overhauls?
Originally Posted By MousDad Powderpuffy air-bubbles of substantless boredom. That's how I describe the Iger model Disney Parks "creativity." Disney Parks should be about escape. And nothing says escape LESS than over-personalization.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Spot on Mousedad! We want to be dazzled! This rarely happens with the mouse anymore.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>And nothing says escape LESS than over-personalization.<<< Escape is full blown immersion, illusion, and surprise. It's creating about creating a environment, one has never seen before.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Of course... People want to feel special! And I'm channeling my inner Spirit of 74 when I say that Disney fans, especially, want to feel even more special! LOL
