Originally Posted By vbdad55 Spot on Mousedad! We want to be dazzled! This rarely happens with the mouse anymore. ---- it's all perspective DWB-- my oldest daughter is at OKW with my future in laws and her future BIL and his 5 year old. Everyone is amazed at everything the past 3 days- they couldn't be happier ..it isn't possible. The parents haven't been there in 20+ years.. the BIL and daughter never. They are already planning their next trip -- so it's hard to make blanket statement like above without quantifyng them because they are viewed so differently by different parties I am somewhere in between... but also glad to hear stories like the one I'm sharing also.......
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Maybe that is the secret to enjoying Disney. The 'vantage' point is different everytime depending on the friends or family you share with. I just returned from a very different trip for me. I normally go by myself but took my daughter's small family including 2 little ones. Quite different in every way! Staying at the new Bay Lake is amazing with incredible views on every level. Also had the nightly fun of the Water Pageant. My grandchildren loved loved loved that. They think that is what WDW is all about in their world and have watched it repeatedly over&over on YOUTUBE. They also loved Chef Remy and we had to eat at Chef de France twice just to see REMY. I don't think MM rated much. Just goes to show you never know. All the technology in the world can not pre-conceive fun no matter how much they want to package it all.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I do believe many of the worst critics here do only see one perspective. I mean that's Ok as long as you list it as your persepctive. But when I read things like- "worst show ever" " waste of spae' " totally sucks" and a few posters who title the thread where you already know where it is going from the first post. travel there with someone who has never been. Go with someone who has saved their whole life to go. Try and see things through a 5 year old's eyes - 1 50 year old's eyes- and basically a lot of combinations. Things like poor maintenance- ignoring certain attractions from a repair standpoint - or updating..etc..deserve to be called out because they affect everyone. However things like the HM queue - which started in a thread to tell you how mgmt had ruined the entire park with a piece of crapola -- when it turns out almost nobdy had seen it yet.. and of those that did at least half liked it. Really a lot of W/E type threads where a few years ago you knew you'd get a "Bush sucks" comment by the 3rd post-- well now you may get a WDW blows by the 10th post. And yes I realize it's a blog- opinions are opinions and all belong-- but should be quantified at least a little. Perspective can ne an amazing thing-- a lot of little things that bothered me a few years ago-- well after a health scare...the next time I went to WDW I did not look for the bad things ( I didn't ignore the obvious either)- but I chose to enjoy the many wonderful things. enough for my opinion- and it is only that- an opinion..not gospel
Originally Posted By Bolna <<I'm still trying to figure out what we are complaining about this time?>> Maybe we are all just getting a bit annoyed that we have been hearing about Next Gen for years now and we still don't know what it is and what it will imply. A lot of things have been suggested, but so far it is still a bit of a mystery. So people are getting nervous about it - and this interview was just another example how there is lots of talk about technology, but not about content.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I do believe many of the worst critics here do only see one perspective. I mean that's Ok as long as you list it as your persepctive. But when I read things like- "worst show ever" " waste of spae' " totally sucks" and a few posters who title the thread where you already know where it is going from the first post.>> Why not call me out in the actual thread? And for the record, I go to WDW with a ton of different family members and friends. I get the other perspectives, and I appreciate them. But those that were there during the golden age mostly agree with me that there has been a steep decline, and when I show my little cousins old videos most of them say, "That's so much better then what's there now, why did they take it away?" Oh, and I've yet to see LMA with someone who ended up enjoying it. ;-)
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Oh, and I've yet to see LMA with someone who ended up enjoying it. ;-)<<< this is what confuses me. In Paris, the show is always greatly received, with huge applause, and a few times, people giving a standing ovation. In WDW, people seemed bored (and yet the Indy show is far slower and past it's sell by date). It shows how different demographics take to things. I have seen maybe 3 dozen stunt shows around the globe and LMA/MA is one of my favs.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Maybe we are all just getting a bit annoyed that we have been hearing about Next Gen for years now and we still don't know what it is and what it will imply. A lot of things have been suggested, but so far it is still a bit of a mystery. So people are getting nervous about it - and this interview was just another example how there is lots of talk about technology, but not about content. << That's the whole point. We really don't know how it's going to be applied. We don't know if we might actually like it. It's the equivalent of me speculating on how it would feel to kiss Roseanne Barr.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<this is what confuses me. In Paris, the show is always greatly received, with huge applause, and a few times, people giving a standing ovation. In WDW, people seemed bored (and yet the Indy show is far slower and past it's sell by date). It shows how different demographics take to things. I have seen maybe 3 dozen stunt shows around the globe and LMA/MA is one of my favs.>> Well, for me, the stunt show setup is lame in general. The only reason I enjoy Indy is because it's Indy. Other than that, I've never really enjoyed stunt shows. There's just way too much talking involved in them. Yea, there's some interesting tidbits here or there, but I can learn more and more interesting things on DVD extras. On top of that, I LOATHE the feaux movie-filming. It irks me to no end. Listen, I know you're not filming a movie here. Don't do that crap. This can also be said about Star Tours and Indy, but from what I understand they got rid of that in the Star Tours queue.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> this is what confuses me. In Paris, the show is always greatly received, with huge applause, and a few times, people giving a standing ovation. In WDW, people seemed bored (and yet the Indy show is far slower and past it's sell by date). It shows how different demographics take to things. I have seen maybe 3 dozen stunt shows around the globe and LMA/MA is one of my favs. << It cost a good deal of money to present also. That's why I'm sure if it truly was not popular with the guest, it would be going away. It's kind of like the Indy show. We went to see it back in December for the first time in about 10 years. It was almost a full house, and from their reactions I would have to say that the guest loved it.
Originally Posted By Bolna <<That's the whole point. We really don't know how it's going to be applied. We don't know if we might actually like it. It's the equivalent of me speculating on how it would feel to kiss Roseanne Barr.>> Well, but it looks like Next Gen is definitely going to happen, whether we like it nor not - I am not sure whether the same can be said about you kissing Roseanne Barr at some point in the future??
Originally Posted By vbdad55 hearing about Next Gen for years now and we still don't know what it is and what it will imply. A lot of things have been suggested, but so far it is still a bit of a mystery --- much like a lot of major corps right now these 'next gen' plans are changing more rapidly than they can be put into place - Smarter planet / power grids etc... so I understand the concern that they could be poor replacements for what we have today-- but really I am fairly confident none of it written in stone yet
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Well, but it looks like Next Gen is definitely going to happen, whether we like it nor not - I am not sure whether the same can be said about you kissing Roseanne Barr at some point in the future?? << They are investing a lot of money in the technology so yes it is definitely coming. It has the potential to really be spectacular if applied correctly. I'm sure it will still have it's opponents, as well as detractors, no matter how good or bad it turns out to be. As far as kissing Roseanne goes, I fear we shall always be two ships that pass in the night.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 this is what confuses me. In Paris, the show is always greatly received, with huge applause, and a few times, people giving a standing ovation. In WDW, people seemed bored (and yet the Indy show is far slower and past it's sell by date). It shows how different demographics take to things. ------ take I95 to Miami on ahot afternoon- the stunt show may seem tame
Originally Posted By vbdad55 As far as kissing Roseanne goes, I fear we shall always be two ships that pass in the night if you're lucky that will continue to happen - yeuk
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I did that drive. It seemed easy going compared to I5 in LA or the M25 in London. So far I have yet to see a car jumping backwards, a well choreographed car ballet, or a motorcyclist on fire with no injuries in the real world.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<They are investing a lot of money in the technology so yes it is definitely coming. It has the potential to really be spectacular if applied correctly. I'm sure it will still have it's opponents, as well as detractors, no matter how good or bad it turns out to be.>> From the tidbits I've heard about NextGen, it isn't going to improve inpark experiences much, which is why I have a problem with the astronomical amount of money being spent on it.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> if you're lucky that will continue to happen - yeuk << It's like one of those sick perverted dreams one has. Kind of like wondering what it feels like the moment you hit the ground after falling off a 300 foot high cliff.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Dave- I'v driven all over this country many times - lived in LA for a while - and I95 to me is the scariest road ever. I've never seen road crews in trucks set up to scoop up wrecks ASAP and get lanes back open. My last drive to Miami was highlighted by no less than 6 fairly serious wrecks round trip. $500 cars on $5000 sets of rims - traveling 100-110 + and clearly not having mirrors or signals.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> From the tidbits I've heard about NextGen, it isn't going to improve inpark experiences much, which is why I have a problem with the astronomical amount of money being spent on it. << From what I've heard you are not going to know exactly how it will be applied because it is a closely guarded secret. Any comments LeeMac? There could possibly be a couple of pints, and a bottle of Glenlivet (I'm talking the really old stuff) involved here.
