Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Has a 101 post ever been admined?cause I was thinking somethin else there pal!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>After Mars Needs Moms, they're probably afraid to put their slide on anything.<<< As they should be.Terrible.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo It may cut it close to the wind, but hoping not too close. One thing is for sure, I wrote off woking for the mouse 10 years ago, my rap sheet has probably closed that door.
Originally Posted By Socrates I have a time-saving suggestion: "____________ (fill in name of current CEO) is the worst thing to happen to Disney since ___________ (fill in name of any past CEO)!" Now just copy this, and in the future all you'll have to do is put in the names. This'll save everyone lots of time. Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<However, if we are going to look at this objectively, Iger has tried:>> Buying Pixar>> An absolute no-brainer. Not a thing more. <<Buying Marvel>> Something that I am not at all convinced will turn out to be a smart move at all. Many of the top properties are tied to other studios (Spidey, X-Men) for years. In addition to just not feeling like a good fit with Disney, one also has to realize that superhero films tend to run in cycles when they're popular. We might be reaching a saturation point by now. But the jury is out ... <<Clean up at Hong Kong>> Something that had to be done. Park had 60% chopped off original development. Beautiful, but tiny. And while I certainly think two of the new lands sound great, the other is total crap (as you know from personal experience in Paris). He also had to cough up the entire cost because the SAR wouldn't. And more elaborate plans, like Tim Delaney's Pirate Land concept weren't approved (although some of it will wind up in Shanghai). <<The DCA redo (while I do not like the toon direction, it seems the changes are successful)>> Yep. But much like HKDL, how much choice did he have? These parks were failing bigtime because of the way they were developed (and he was the No. 2 at the company during most of that period). What could he have done? The scary thing is I've heard the DCA redo would not have happened if the money hadn't of been allocated when it did because just a few short months later, the economy tanked completely. <<Shanghai>> Considering the negotiations began around 1999-2000, and were near dead a few times ... well, again the proof will be years away. And right now, I'm hearing a lot of concerned comments regarding again building a park that is way too incomplete at open. Also, realize that part of the Shanghai negotiations also concerned getting The Disney Channel over there and giving the Studios greater coverage and cracking down on fake merchandise. Iger failed miserably on all of the above. And, for Disney, they are more important long term than yet another theme park. <<New Fantasyland in WDW (and some good DVC additions)>> They had/have major capacity issues. That was the reason this project got done. That it got done with NO E-Ticket/major attraction is mindblowing. Apparently, they had one in it originally (the Cartoon Corners attraction Leemac has referenced), but as the $750 million budget continually got lowered, it became what it is now. And DVC?!??! ... Really. You're gonna give him credit for overdoing something that is simply milking a cash cow with no view of how it affects the property as a whole long term? <<New Star Tours>> at the end of the day, it's a redo that should have happened a dozen years ago. And as stale as WDW has become, I am waiting for breathless threads about 3-4 hour waits down into Backlot ... but they sure aren't happening (like they have at WWoHP). <<Other additions I really hate - TSPL, TSMM, American Idol, furthering reliance on screens, Next Gen.>> TSMM I believe was approved when Eisner was still in charge. But none of the above excite me. Nor do I think they drive people to make vacation plans. <<New Cruise ship>> A no-brainer again that took Disney too long because they wanted to pay as little for the ships as possible. <<Growing DVC so it benefits people like me who do not want to go to the South East US (California and Hawaii, makes it nicer)>> I do think this is smart. DVC should have a bigger footprint than WDW. And that was the original plans, back when I didn't quite dislike it so. Back when resorts were planned for everywhere from NYC to Newport Beach, from Colorado to New Hampshire. <<Trying traditional animation again and Disney branded princess animation>> I do give credit here, but others pushed for it as well. Disney was founded in animation. Killing it would be like McDonald's not serving hamburgers. <<Some poor Broadway productions and lots of other smaller things. Sadly though, the only ones that feel really Disney to me are the Cruise Ship (though looks more toony than the understated predecessors) and Star Tours (I think, I've not seen the redo in person yet). Maybe Aulani, too soon to know for sure. Long list? Yes, it is. Appealing to me? Quite the antithesis, I do not like much of what Disney has done since Iger took the helm other than maybe TRON Legacy and Sorceror's Apprentice - which no one else seemed to like. >> I just see no VISION at all from the top. Nothing coherent. He loves technology and platforms. He thinks people want to watch Thor on a cell phone. He thinks people can't be entertained by theme parks, not because he isn't building attractions like HPatFJ, so they need thinks to play with when in the queues. For someone at a creative content company that is so into BRANDING, he's killed great name BRANDs in the Disney stable ... like ABC Sports (and now Daytime). Disney is becoming more and more of a distribution company. I see no PASSION from the man either. Eisner was passionate about Disney, whether making good or bad choices. Iger runs things like a cool CEO who only cares about the bottom line and whether the camera makes it look like he's gained 10 pounds. I don't hear people in the industry talk highly of him at all. They tend to use respectful terms like 'capable' and 'smart' and 'balanced' ... those aren't glowing endorsements. I do wonder how long he desires/intends to stay at Disney. I don't think he's destroying the company, but his decisions are going to have long term ramifications for it ... and those worry me ... a lot.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 NO CEO should put in more than 7-8 years- most of the best CEO's will tell you that. Eisner had a very good run- for 10 years- he should have been gone as his passion turned into egomaniacal control. Iger is far more hands off...not necessarily a bad thing following the micro management Eisner left with - but an entertainment company needs more of a visual presence- and if not more creative- ensure they showcase a high exec who is--I agree with that
Originally Posted By vbdad55 DIsney is faceless now with out Family involvement...or those who believed they were the embodiment of Walt like Eisner. They need a face-- Jobs will not be it, ever, doesn't want to and may not be healty enough to. Lassetter has been a disappointment - maybe because I had sky high expectations for him.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>Lassetter has been a disappointment - maybe because I had sky high expectations for him.<< I agree. While I think I had realistic expectations for him going in, he still hasn't even met those. I very well could be wrong, but so far it appears he has became the same thing he privately criticized when he was outside looking in 10 years ago.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 agree -- he has his pet projects and even the ones I like - like the whole Cars theme and Rt 66 etc. which resonates with me... there has to be more. When you take on a role with his title and remuneration, you need to leave a much bigger footprint than he's doing. If he's not capable- that's fine..but then let's find someone who is.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Iger is far more hands off...not necessarily a bad thing following the micro management Eisner left with - but an entertainment company needs more of a visual presence- and if not more creative- ensure they showcase a high exec who is--I agree with that<<< Agreed. Luckily, only a few years more... yes?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I agree. While I think I had realistic expectations for him going in, he still hasn't even met those. I very well could be wrong, but so far it appears he has became the same thing he privately criticized when he was outside looking in 10 years ago.<<< Same here. Nothing for WDI and parks, save for his synergy.
Originally Posted By MousDad >>Iger is far more hands off...<< Unless there happens to be a mag interview scheduled on a given day.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Unless there happens to be a mag interview scheduled on a given day.<<<< Or there's a fancy new iThing to play wth.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 Does anyone else regeret being involved in Roy's SaveDisney soap? I DO
