Originally Posted By alexbook No, I think the argument is that if the U.S. government refuses to dignify Chavez's rants with a response, that's the correct thing to do, but if WE posters don't immediately denounce Chavez, then we're terrorist sympathizers.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Hugo Chavez and I are kindred spirits??<< Only if you start leading farm labor protests!
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>And Hugo Chavez, pseudo-leader of Cuba...<< HAH! Hugo Chavez is the President of Venezuela! Therefore, your pitiful argument collapses like a house of cards. So there!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <You need to read the left wing websites. They love Chavez and think he is a hero for making fun of the president. You know, kinda like so many people on here make fun of the president.< Beau, I say this with the best of intentions...you can take it for what it's worth or shoot me, it's up to you. I would never venture to the far left web sites no more than I venture to the far right because they are so radical, any good points they may have gets caught up in the rhetorical bull. Neither side is going to help this country move forward and fix issues we have that are serious to our future. You know how I feel about the job market because it is something I am very close to , at a high level, and can tell you there is danger in the future if we can't get a better handle on. We have some serious enemies out there right now and we need to be united as a country in order to stand tall against more challenges I am sure will come our way one day, maybe soon. In order to do this the majority of the people not so far off the sides in this country have got to be able to work together. These items are larger than Bush or Clinton or anyone else. So as a 'not so confused' member of the GOP, but a moderate that definitely leans right, I am telling you that after you make a point in a post, to add in pointless comments like : you libs are all losers, anyone not making $100K is a lose , the terrorist bill of rights stuff, etc. cheapens everything else you just got done taking the time to think out and type. And many times you throw this stuff back out even after a debate is over and you have conceded a point, then you toss the same rhetoric out on another thread to tick people off. You are not a stupid person ( I know I may get shot for this comment) - but you come across as childish when you do this and I am sure when you are doing your sales presentations, you don't throw this kinbd of rubbish in at the end, or else you would already be out of a job. So why not just debate the points at face value and leave the rah rah stuff for a point in time when it applies ? If someone takes you up on one of your best and you win...sure - celebrate. Just my 2 cents.....and no you are not the only offender here, but you are far and away the most consistent. There are posters already that I do not reply to because sometimes I can;t even understand whagt their point is, but they throw Bush and all Republicans are liars in at the end for effect and then I just move to the next post. The libs are all losers and some of the other things you've called them just turns me away from anything said, and heck I'm not even a lib. Oh well - let's move on...I am not the owner of this board, just a contributor
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <>>And Hugo Chavez, pseudo-leader of Cuba...<< HAH! Hugo Chavez is the President of Venezuela! Therefore, your pitiful argument collapses like a house of cards. So there!> Chavez or Castro -- same difference. Whatever. If I actually responded to actual people on this board, I'd tell you to bite off. But I don't respond to actual people.
Originally Posted By DlandJB <Winter Bash would have to work a little differently if they only allowed us to have one handle.> Good point. I concede that. I know that the moderators and Doobekah have determined that WE should just be left to slug it out. After a few months of watching get worse and worse (and I'm talking about left and right) and seeing some of those bad manners spill over into other areas of the boards, I'm beginning to think that what's needed here is more moderation and not less. If some posters insist like acting like spoiled children, they should be treated like spoiled children. And again, I'd be happy if the whole area went away. What I find completely exasperating, is that I would really enjoy discussion and debate, but it is not possible here. Without common courtesy, you can't have useful debate. It's a shame, because it would be fun. But meanness and shallow taunts are never fun.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy From democratunderground.com as they commented on the Chavez speech. Really, after hearing what people on here say about Bush, how are they much different from Chavez? Here are a few comments that took about 5 seconds to find. <<2. Was that Great or What? Better yet it went over well to his audience, they aplauded, they laughed, Hugo was a big hit. Hope he doesn't recieve a big hit. 3. BUSH IS NOT THE DEVIL !!!!! he just works for him 4. WOW.... Chavez kicked Bush ass ! Chavez gave a fantastic straight to the point speech, that told it just like it is... The imperialism of the US is going to destroy the world, if not stopped. No political side-stepping, no forked-tongue talking; Chavez spoke in the common mans language ! He brought up Noam Chomskys book and recommended everyone at the UN to read it. Unbelievable speech ! VIVA CHAVEZ !!!!!! VIVA CHAVEZ !!!! >>> These people are the power and voice in the democrat party now. Thus they get mocked. So yes Jim, you are linked to Chavez in your comments.
Originally Posted By DlandJB Beau -- go hijack another thread. Take your rude behavior somewhere else.
Originally Posted By alexbook Should I respond? Shouldn't I? Okay, here, from democraticunderground.com/about.html: >>While the vast majority of our visitors are Democrats, this web site is not affiliated with the Democratic Party, nor do we claim to speak for the party as a whole.<< Just because a few posters on a liberal discussion board say something, that doesn't mean that *all* Democrats or *all* liberals think that way. When someone makes a blanket statement about *all* Democrats or *all* Republicans, it is practically a given that (a) they're wrong, and (b) they're trolling.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd If everyone was as considerate as me as i am with every wonderful person, who posts on laughing place, well we would all be having a wonderful, fun time together. Instead we have to put up with the liars, and enemy creators, which all republicans now are.
Originally Posted By alexbook >>When someone makes a blanket statement about *all* Democrats or *all* Republicans, it is practically a given that (a) they're wrong, and (b) they're trolling.<< >>Instead we have to put up with the liars, and enemy creators, which all republicans now are.<< You do the math.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd The difference between a blanket statement and a truism is the circumstances. The democrats and all honest americans have been censored out of the media, while placed stories, lies, are being used to steal our government from us. The traitor, george bush, allowed us to be attacked on 9/11, that is a given, only a traitor, supports george bush, and that is a fact, not exactly a blanket statement, except that it is a truism. A law could be described as a blanket statement also, but it is still the law, and the republicans still go to jail, one after the other. All liars and crooks. I have no respect for anyone who calls themselves a republican. It means they are all humanitys enemy. They certainly are your enemy, whether you are republican, democratic, or not. If you support republicans in your government you are supporting the very traitors who lowered america's defenses on every level, against terrorists in our airplanes, in our food supplies, and especially we have terrorists in the white house. Everyone knows bush is a pathetic traitor criminal. It will always be, and only a troll ignores it.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <So yes Jim, you are linked to Chavez in your comments.> Can I wear a costume like he wears?
Originally Posted By Beaumandy My problem with so many liberals is that they won't admit who they are. They bash Bush, America, the military and Christians like crazy, only to get offended when they are called out on it. The crazy people on the far left web sites are no different than many people on here. That is all I am saying. Usually I just repeat what these people say. Chavez sounds exactly like a typical Democrat. Who can deny this with the thousands of quotes that match up to the dictators and terrorists of the world? So if pointing out the truth makes me a troll, or makes me rude, so be it. I know. Why not stop trashing your country and the president for a change???
