Originally Posted By smedley KT I will miss you too, others have said everything I could have, and no doubt much more eloquently than I. If you do go please be sure to drop me the occasional email to keep in touch, I miss our chats
Originally Posted By amazedncal2 KT, I'm sorry you were hurt. I stay the heck out of WE unless it's a "whatever" subject and then I leave when the debating starts. If you enjoy WE, just remember that you can post that you are done with a subject and are moving on. I love to have the last word as much as anyone else but it doesn't always make me feel better. I've been personally attacked on DL General of all places and although I was hurt and mystified I just made a mental note of who the poster was and avoided him from that day on. Gottaluv, I'm REALLY sorry that you have received nasty emails from someone on LP! That is disturbing! We miss you in Community and DL Trip Planning
Originally Posted By rtjl72 kt- i wish you would stay. too many have left lp lately and i hope you aren't added to the numbers. villains- i know it took a lot of courage on your part to come back here. even though it isn't "warm", i so wish it could be again. varmits- you know who you are. you are self important and think because of length of posting you are the bomb. well, guess what- it's a big ocean and you are small fish. we all are. we can swim with our school and stay out of the way of the big fish. big fish may eventually consume their own- so,those of you that think that you are big fish or think that your school of big fish rule the oceans- beware of yourselves! mr big fish may disagree with YOU next time and then blame it all on having a bad week.
Originally Posted By iamsally I think you must know how we feel Tom (and Joe). You two mean a lot to us. I have never gotten into controversial discussions as it is just not my thing. I got slammed years ago in DLgeneral. Silly thing about rude CM's. I was pretty much called a liar. I left that thread and have never responded to that poster again. But I have too many dear friends here to leave. The *flavor* of LP, to me, is what I make it. Much love, Ruthie and Rod
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I'm feeling a kinda hurt tonight as I had read a post aimed at me that I found to be very demeaning and that I believe ridiculed me. >>> <<< I also believe it crosses a line that should not be crossed. >>> I don't know, since I don't know which post you're referring to - I wish I knew. <<< It makes me feel unwelcome on this board. I'm not here to be ridiculed and I believe everyone here deserves to be treated with respect and dignity. I was hoping that I would be treated accordingly. Unfortunately, today I found this was not the case. >>> I'm sorry to hear that you're upset. But I do find it a bit ironic to hear this coming from you. I have to honestly say that you are probably among the "top 5" of people that have really angered me over the years on LP. You once posted a question asking for help, and a few others and myself took the time to answer you seriously, and all you did was respond in a very disparaging, demeaning, and insulting manner on an important topic. It was bad enough that you responded the way you did, and all the more insulting that you had specifically asked people to help you. I just wrote it off as one of those internet message board things and didn't let it bother me. But it is a bit rich to see you upset now (and once again, I'm sorry that you are upset). <<< So, perhaps now is the time for me to step away from Laughing Place for a while. >>> Don't let the door hit you on the way out. I think there's a saying about people living in glass houses and stone throwing.
Originally Posted By u k fan I once got so badly slammed in PLAYPEN that the whole topic was removed! I never saw it, but I gather it was pretty bad so I know where you're coming from. At the end of the day you need to do what's best for you!!!
Originally Posted By mawnck >>you are self important and think because of length of posting you are the bomb. well, guess what- it's a big ocean and you are small fish. we all are. we can swim with our school and stay out of the way of the big fish. big fish may eventually consume their own- so,those of you that think that you are big fish or think that your school of big fish rule the oceans- beware of yourselves! mr big fish may disagree with YOU next time and then blame it all on having a bad week.<< Aww, you made me ink!
Originally Posted By disneylandfan8 >>Don't let the door hit you on the way out. I think there's a saying about people living in glass houses and stone throwing.<< Are we still in the WE section? Why do remarks like these end up being posted? Where are your manners? Didn't anyone ever tell you "if you can't say something good, then don't say it?" Negative, name calling, attitudes have been showing up all over LP lately and it has driven a lot of people away. I've found I don't find much joy in LP anymore when these types of posts happen. Can't we all just be friends, united in our love for Disney, without all the meanness? Opinions are one thing, but nastiness is not necessary. It is possible to express your opinion without putting down others and their opinions. And I'm sure I'll get slammed for this post, too.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Negative, name calling, attitudes have been showing up all over LP lately and it has driven a lot of people away. I've found I don't find much joy in LP anymore when these types of posts happen.<< No, it's not "lately." It's been like this all along. Trust me. That's why WE is here, to try and segregate the worst of the nastiness from the rest of the boards. This topic being about WE posts and WE posters, I really wish it had been started in WE. Coming OUT of WE to complain about WE is just asking for it, and I think shows lack of understanding of the whole WE concept. In any case, any time the name-calling gets rough on the LP boards, don't hesitate to report the miscreants to the mods.
Originally Posted By disney pete Tom hang on in there i used to go in to WE but seen to many ugly posts so stay well away now maybe you should give WE a wide berth for a while but don't leave here for good Tom.
Originally Posted By Pixie Glitter Disneylandfan8, if someone (in this case Kennesaw Tom) gets into a disagreement in WE, making rude, attacking, or otherwise inappropriate posts there themselves, and then comes into Community and starts a thread to complain about being mistreated, naturally people are going to respond. This happens fairly often with a handful of LPers. And then what also typically happens is an outpouring of "Oh, you poor thing, please don't leave, don't let the bad guys get you down" posts by people who haven't even seen the original source of conflict or the "I'm leaving" thread starter's part in that conflict. I've been on LP for seven years, and I have seen this happen over and over and over again. There's a reason why several people jokingly threaten to "leave LP forever again." I'm all for being supportive of people who are being picked on unfairly. But the knee jerk response of sympathy whenever someone complains about having their feelings hurt in WE is. . . .well, let's just say uninformed in many, many cases. Gotta say, I can't ever recall someone making a big stink about leaving LP because of hurt feelings when they have not been very much a participant in the ugliness themselves. So I don't see the "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" reference here being mean or rude or anything of the sort.
Originally Posted By amazedncal2 AH, so this is all about a thread in WE that KT started? OK, gotcha. I had no clue but now looking back I guess I should have. I wasn't a key poster in the most recent exchange that sent many LPers packing. In that case, I did read all the posts before responding or "taking sides" as I believe it ended up being called. I try very hard to choose my words carefully and avoid certain posters. I "know" KT from some Community threads so I am hopeful that he sticks around and comes and plays where the tone is usually light. I also think there is a tone of "I've been here longer than you so I can say what I want" (NO reference to what you posted Pixie, honest, your post just reminded me of something that has been bothering me I believe that someone who starts posting today should be as welcome and their posts as accepted as the first (and highly regarded) group. We all came here as individuals (baggage included) seeking information or sharing information about Disney. Please keep the debating posts and the name calling in WE. Go ahead and flame me now. I'm too old to change my mind. Life is too short.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Although in theory I agree that a new poster should say what he or she likes on any topic (s)he likes. In practice if someone new posts a strong oppinion on something here, we're all going to think "well who the heck are YOU anyway". I really think it's best for a newbie to dip their toes in and get a feeling for the boards and let the community get a feeling for them before letting loose with both barrels.
Originally Posted By beamerdog Regardless of what KT said in WE, he probably came here expecting some kinder and gentler responses. I lurk but rarely post in WE. Yes, it was created to keep that "tone" out of Community. If I post there, I am always aware that someone is not going to like what I say and let me know about it. The OP has many a time said things that I don't agree with, but out of WE, it's a different world. I just agree to disagree out here. Anyway, just because you've been in a "discussion" in WE doesn't mean that you can't express the fact that your feelings have been hurt.
Originally Posted By ecdc Great post in 31, Pixie. I really don't know what KT is referring too and I'm genuinely sad to hear that anyone has their feelings hurt. I know I've been there. Another common WE's phenomenon is the "I usually avoid WE's like the plague BUT [insert rant here]" posts. It's a lame way to try and stay above the fray of WE's while still sharing your opinion - which is all anyone is doing in WE's anyways. I like WE's. I like the people that post there. The eye rolling and derision of those WEers gets old. If you don't like it, don't post there. In SuperDry's defense, I've seen some pretty mean-spirited things said in WE's by some long-time, beloved LPers. That's fine - we all get riled up and might use some hyperbole sometimes - just check out the IASW changes threads But pixie nailed it - don't automatically separate LPers into bad guy and good guy camps based on somebody's sweet behavior in the DL section. And of course, don't attack them either. How about we all grow up and let things go and just try and get along? Most people mean-well and rarely intend offense. I'd call some of the drama that goes on online like high school drama and gossip, but I'm afraid that'd be insulting to high schoolers. We're all adults. Try and get along.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***>>Don't let the door hit you on the way out. I think there's a saying about people living in glass houses and stone throwing.<< Are we still in the WE section? Why do remarks like these end up being posted? Where are your manners?*** Apparently you didn't read his whole post. SuperDry is one of the most even tempered and politest posters on laughingplace, actually. Which makes his vehement post all the more powerful. I hope that Tom reads it and takes it to heart.
Originally Posted By Pixie Glitter Amazedncal2, I hear you about the new poster thing. I, too, believe that all posters, regardless of their length of time posting, should feel welcome and treated cordially IF they are posting in a manner that complies with Community Standards. One clarification, though----every so often a new poster isn't new at all, and that new screen name has been created in order to continue with their old rants or to snipe at people anonymously. I've seen that happen quite a few times. I think that sometimes results in the comments about "I notice you just registered today and this is your first post" and lack of welcome. So while all legitimate newbies are welcome, people continuing old grudges under a fake screen name don't, in my opinion, deserve a big warm welcome. And beamerdog, yes, people are free to air their hurt feelings. But that wasn't my point. My point was that if you are actively involved in antagonistic behavior/posts yourself when you get your feelings hurt, I don't think it's cool to run to Community and start a thread in which you present only the fact that *your* feelings were hurt and imply that happened as a result of unfairness by others. And the inevitable outcry of sympathy and support is frustrating to those who actually saw the whole thing and know the rest of the story, so to speak. I'll climb back down off my soapbox now, but this type of behavior, by several others besides the OP here, has bugged me for years, and I finally got irritated enough to speak out.
Originally Posted By beamerdog >>And beamerdog, yes, people are free to air their hurt feelings. But that wasn't my point. My point was that if you are actively involved in antagonistic behavior/posts yourself when you get your feelings hurt, I don't think it's cool to run to Community and start a thread in which you present only the fact that *your* feelings were hurt and imply that happened as a result of unfairness by others. And the inevitable outcry of sympathy and support is frustrating to those who actually saw the whole thing and know the rest of the story, so to speak.<< Yes, I understand why you feel this way and I'm glad that you explained this in more detail.
