Originally Posted By CuriousConstance ^^^Which I find odd. I guess they just weren't popular or something. But I can't see why they can't create a 6, 7, 8 or whatever day hopper if you want one.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney If you are a local and go often, I still see an annual pass as a good deal. Maybe not as good as it use to be, but good. The problem lies when you have a family and have to purchase a pass for everyone, which, while still a good deal, is quite expensive. The locals are a big part of the reason D-land is so crowded, so I don't see the crowds declining anytime soon. For everyone else, well, people will still go. I think most people will budget a family vacation and make changes in their budget where necessary. If people choose Disneyland for their vacation, the ticket price probably won't stop many.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>I just can't justify spending that much money anymore, time for me to explore other destinations.<<< Right-on! You know, our family has never been to San Diego. We never could seem to make it past Disneyland, but this year we will. There are so many great places to visit in the country/world!
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>We have vague plans to go back in a couple of years, but when I think about the crowds it just isn't that attractive of a destination.<< And that's the other disincentive. At least there used to be "off seasons" when the crowds were manageable. But now they fill the place up during the off season with the less expensive SoCal APs.
Originally Posted By SuperDry Disney did just what I predicted they would do (I didn't post my prediction here, but "Scout's Honor" that I actually thought they might do just this): They've de-emphasized the 1-day hopper and re-arranged the ticket price board to put the 1-day, 1-park ticket back in a primary position. Here's the new board: <a href="http://datelinedisneyland.smugmug.com/DisneylandResort/2012/05-21-12-Edited-Update-Photos/i-FqKH4Vz/1/X2/IMG0274-X2.jpg" target="_blank">http://datelinedisneyland.smug...4-X2.jpg</a> Compare this with the previous layout (this may not show the most recent prices, but I believe is representative of the layout until last Saturday): http://albums.mouseplanet.com/DavidPerry/DLR_ticket_price_sign_dperry_20070922.jpg Two key points: - The new layout reduces the sticker shock of the price increase, as a walk-up customer will see $87 as the "standard" price rather than $125. - It also promotes the notion that each park is a full-day experience and that park-hopping is not necessary or the default, but an add-on if you want it.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Yes, the park hopping seems to be a bonus that you will need to pay extra for if you want it, as opposed to the old almost standard gotta have a hopper way of thinking. Maybe this will help the crowds at nighttime entertainment since there were lots of people who tried to make all night time entertainment options at both parks. To save money, I think I'll got for the one day park per day option next year.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Great observation SuperDry. Let's see how this new ticketing arrangement pans out for DCA.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "To save money, I think I'll got for the one day park per day option next year." I just noticed that they've added a 2-day 2 park ticket, which is a whopping $30 less than the 2-day parkhopper.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance I know, times this by 4 for my family and it's a big savings. We could eat a fancy meal for the price we'll save. (Goofy's Kitchen is my idea of fancy BTW) Or stay an extra night.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb It looks like they're doing a similar pricing model to WDW where park hopping costs an extra $50 or $60 no matter how many days you have on your tickets.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I've never been a big fan of park hopping. I prefer to "settle in" at whichever park I'm at. Even though it's not a big deal to park hop at DLR, I still prefer to go to one or the other. It's too ADHD for me going back and forth between parks. I'm too lazy I guess. Who knows. I might buy a 1 day ticket sometime to see all the new things at DCA and skip Disneyland altogether. Who'd have thunk it a couple years ago, huh? Maybe for me it'll be back to 1 full day at DL, the next at Knott's or Universal like we used to do when I was growing up.
Originally Posted By -em I agree its a heck of a jump but I can also see it as a way to scale back the amount of APers in the park in the long run while not truly affecting the average tourist (as in the scheme of a whole vacation 20-30 bucks isn't a lot) Which in turn slowly gets the park more to a 'tourist destination' than a local 'mall' hangout where people are putting 52+ clicks on their pass in a year and generally spend very little to none on the average park visit. I could easily see the lustor of replacing even 10-15% of the AP base with higher spending tourists as they don't necessarily need their 'seat fillers' of APs this year. As a CM at WDW I've been fascinated to see the difference of blackout dates for our admission passes this summer. WDW has 2 days total this summer (July 3/4th MK only) vs BOTH parks being blacked out for all of June/July and most of August (DL has 2 of the 4 weeks available)and makes bet I won't get to use my pass for Marathon weekend.. Itll be interesting to see how the rate hikes affect the attendance and how long its been since my first $199 PAP in 2002... -em
Originally Posted By fkurucz "I just noticed that they've added a 2-day 2 park ticket, which is a whopping $30 less than the 2-day parkhopper." And an even more whopping $4 savings over two single day passes.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Who knows. I might buy a 1 day ticket sometime to see all the new things at DCA and skip Disneyland altogether. Who'd have thunk it a couple years ago, huh?" I did that back in 2001, when DCA first opened. I went to DLR 3 times that year, and on two of those visits I skipped DL.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "At least there used to be 'off seasons' when the crowds were manageable." There still are.
Originally Posted By x Pirate_Princess x I have a suggestion: make an AP that only allows for 1 park per day.. Usually, when I go, I do one park a day anyway (hey kids -- Disneyland or DCA this time!?) give me a discount, and I won't park-hop. Also, they've been giving the PAP a 20% discount on merchandise for several years now -- it's still "holiday" discount. Keep that as a standard, and $649 may not seem so bad...
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder If they're looking to thin the herd, eliminate the monthly billing option.
Originally Posted By x Pirate_Princess x ^ that would definitely do it for me, even with 3 So Cal selects...
Originally Posted By disneylandfan8 Schmitty - I think you DID renew/purchase your AP when we were there in August. I have a photo of you at the ticket booth. That's why it expires in August. (Me thinks someone has had one too many trips to Trader Sam's...)
