Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror >>>Otherwise when you say right out "it's a tax writeoff" people believe you and pass that on to someone else like it's truth. People love to hate the government.<<< Why should people hate the government simply because Disney gets a tax writeoff for keeping an attraction closed? While I can imagine some lunkards going there with blame, that's about as ludicrous and half-brained a reasoning as I can imagine. People on this board, for the most part, tend to be smarter. >>>>> People like to take goofy uninformed jabs because they don't have anything to offer themselves that actually reeks of a source.<< Don't know if you're referring to my response. But if so, know that I was trying very hard to write a simple and non-insulting remark that asks for more information about something that seems just the opposite in my own experience.<<< I wasn't referring to your response, but it seems you have something of an internal issue to resolve, to respond with such specificity and effort in two separate posts... But no, "clod" wasn't meant for you.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I am not questioning your competence, honesty, or knowledge. I don't know you from Adam. Please don't expect everyone to "know who you are" out of the box. Maybe I'll get to know you over time.>> That's fine, ss. I didn't start posting on LP.com for anyone to get to know me personally. Even though I've met some wonderful folks here, I like to keep my real life seperate from online existence. >> I wish someone would save this so I don't have to retype this every month when someone questions my credibility << <<An honest suggestion -- I notice that your LP profile doesn't contain any text. Why not write something yourself, park it there, and then we can all know you better by your own words. You can read mine if you want. Just click on my LP name. >> That's just it, though. When I first came to the LP, I wanted to remain anonymous. To everyone. Unfortunately, I was outed to some nasty, insecure, insignificant folks at Disney. But many still don't who I am, and even those that do, don't understand exactly where I fit into the puzzle. I like that. >> I have no intention of outing the sources I have << <<I don't want you to name sources. I just asked why I should believe someone I don't know when my own education and experience in business would indicate an otherwise conclusion? Let's just leave it at that.>> That's cool with me. It would sound that the two of us care. People who care hold tight to what they think is good and important. We don't deny the truth, but sometimes the truth can be less than happy. I prefer to dwell on the parts that remain good.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<But you've known me online for years now. Do you think I post untruths? Have you found my information to be unreliable? ... I've got better things to do. Give me a little credit.>> I don't think you ever post things you know to be untrue. I think in this case you were more than likely mislead. I have no idea who this executive was, but if it were say a VP in Imagineering I would not give his statement any credence whatsoever. I've taken a half dozen or so college accounting courses, including a couple in tax accounting. I can not imagine from my knowledge base how leaving a building unused would result in any type of tax savings. I admit that I've never worked as a tax accountant, and that my education at this point is 30 years old. I realize that tax law does change over time. But that claim just seemed so far outside the lines of anything I've ever learned that I very seriously doubt it is accurate.
Originally Posted By ctdsnark Sheeesh---all I wanted to know was,is if there was any truth to the rumors that there's going to be a new Imagination ride.
Originally Posted By idleBrain <<Feel better, buddy!>> Thanks, dy. I wish I did! But now that I'm home, the head cold has worsened. Looks like yet another sinus infection for me. Yucko.
Originally Posted By idleBrain <<Sheeesh---all I wanted to know was,is if there was any truth to the rumors that there's going to be a new Imagination ride.>> FWIW: <a href="http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?s=48f6457495ea82d8fb83eb16447aa34e&t=90944" target="_blank">http://forums.wdwmagic.com/sho wthread.php?s=48f6457495ea82d8fb83eb16447aa34e&t=90944</a> "I met with my friend yesterday, who is a very reliable source and picked up some big information. Some are strong rumors, others are facts, so don't jump down my throat if you see something you don't like. Imagination has been given an undisclosed, but reportedly small budget for it's refurbishment. Attraction closes around 9/20, Image works in January." Who the heck knows if this is true or not. But if the ride closes by Oct 1, then I'd say this rumor probably has some legs. *ah-choo*
Originally Posted By CMM1 Is it possible that Disney execs simply get bored with attractions like Spaceship Earth or Journey to Imagination and then simply change them because they want to see something new instead of the nice original attraction that visitors who don't frequent the parks would like to enjoy again on return visits? It was very disappointing to see that WDW some years back replaced the legendary Walter Cronkite's voiceover on Spaceship Earth with some unknown - it would have been a fitting tribute to the creator of the original CBS series "The 20th Century" that he could be remembered on an attraction that was about mankind's development. And as for Journey, it most certainly is a shadow of the original with the utterly awful Eric Idle replacing Dreamfinder and with Figment showing up with nothing near the explanation/introduction found in the original version of the ride (it is almost hysterical beyond belief to see EI cavorting on a Disney attraction like Journey - those of us who have seen EI's cabaret show or some of his Monty Python bits find it hysterical that a comic who's theme song references a particularly graphic "adult" seating arrangement should be featured on such a "PG" attraction.
Originally Posted By irishfan >>It was very disappointing to see that WDW some years back replaced the legendary Walter Cronkite's voiceover on Spaceship Earth with some unknown<< Dont think Jeremey Irons would be considered as some unknown.
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn <...I really don't understand why the government would give them money to leave buildings empty,...> It is your civil responsibility to understand that tax write-offs are NOT "the government giving money back to them". It is Disney keeping their own money that they have earned, and not having the government confiscate it from them.
Originally Posted By idleBrain <<it is almost hysterical beyond belief to see EI cavorting on a Disney attraction like Journey - those of us who have seen EI's cabaret show or some of his Monty Python bits find it hysterical that a comic who's theme song references a particularly graphic "adult" seating arrangement should be featured on such a "PG" attraction.>> Like Paul Reubens voicing REX the droid pilot in Star Tours? Or Robin Williams voicing the Timekeeper? Both performers are typically noted for being a bit blue on stage. Long standing Disney tradition.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Maybe what we need is an X-rated Imagination pavilion. With Tony Baxter heading it, I can only 'imagine' what we might be exposed to!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Leather for starters.. and the marquee ride would be a trip thru the canals of Amsterdam, with a grand finale scene in the Red Light District.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Beautiful city, disgusting issue...>> I rather like the openness of Amsterdam ... as a repressed American, how could I not? I've heard it's a very popular vacation spot for Imagineers and Disney execs alike ... who woulda thought? ~the Spirit knows~
Originally Posted By idleBrain I live in the gayest neighborhood in the gayest city on the planet. But Amsterdam makes the Castro look like Muncie, Indiana. Popular vacation spot for Imagineers and WDC execs? With Bangkok running a close second, I would assume. OK... somebody bring this back to DF and Figment before the ADMINs start popping up.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror ^^^Okay, I will. Did the attraction portion in JIYI close a few days ago, as was predicted some posts back? If so, is there anything new in the rumor mill that doesn't involve Amsterdam or Leather? If it does involve Leather, does it have to involve Eric Idle?
