Originally Posted By DLFAN1979 ""What about an emergency in the middle of the ride? How can the cast react to it if they do not have a way of knowing what goes on during the ride?"" Um, we wait till they step on the mats!?? TDLFAN really, you KNOW me, and you know that the CMs that work Ad/Lib are the "get it" CMs. The ones that remeber what it was like??? We have the mats and the doors are alarmed. So thats as good as it gets. We are getting MORE intrusion points during the rehab so there will no longer be huge gaps between the mats.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<The flash photography issue has nothing to do with some sudden influx of "boorish" tourists into the Disney parks over recent years, but everything to do with the explosion of digital photography. The amateur photographer no longer has to be concerned about the cost of a roll of film and the limited number of shots there. With hundreds, maybe even thousands, of shots available on a single flash memory disk, it encourages folks to snap as many pictures as they can possibly capture. If the old 35mm cameras had this possibility of nearly endless film rolls back in 1970, guests would have shown the exact same behavior. There really is no difference in guest behavior, just the equipment they now have at their disposal to demonstrate their true nature.>> This is likely the first item you've posted that I agree with completely. It does make sense. But I still don't understand the stupidity of taking pics of an entire ride. This dude on PoC literally didn't experience any of it. None. He was just snapping away. I guess WDW is so pricey, folks need to record the whole place and experience it when they get home.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>But I still don't understand the stupidity of taking pics of an entire ride. This dude on PoC literally didn't experience any of it. None. He was just snapping away.<<< I can relate to that. I don't even like taking pictures outside much less inside. I'm afraid I will miss something good while I am focusing on only one thing. I brought a camera along for many years because I felt that it was something I should do. I stopped now. What I can't remember with my brain wasn't worth remembering. I just shake my head when I see people lugging all kinds of equipment around. Everything from cameras to complete video set-ups. I cannot get myself to think that would be fun.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^ agree. I still bring a camera on the trip, and wll use it let's say the night we get there at a character dinner to catch a photo of everyone on the trip for that year - and I brought it to SWW's one afternoon, other than that I find it a hassle to carry and still enjoy the parks while waiting for a photo op. It s also why I appreciate the photogs on Main Street as we have a pci there every year for quite a few - and being able to buy on line from home now - wonderful.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip ^^^ I always bring a camera but as with vbdad, I don't use it much. I decided a few years ago that there really was a limit to how many pictures of the castle a person needed! So now I only take pictures of something if it is new or if I can find a totally new and unusual way of photographing it. I still use a film camera. Digital cameras are the work of the devil. ;-)
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I was a slow convert to digital and they had to pry the Nikon F40 from my hands - but I really enjoy digital freedom now
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 RoadTrip, do you know of a place at WDW that will develop the film? The camera center didn't do it last year. Digital only. My husband prefers to do slides, but we're trying to get him to go digital. My camera phone is good for close ups, but terrible for distance.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<RoadTrip, do you know of a place at WDW that will develop the film?>> As far as I know there is no place on WDW property that develops film anymore. For the last couple of years we've had to bring it back home and develop it there. We always used to enjoy looking at our pics while we were at WDW, but I guess that is a thing of the past.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 ^^It was great, if a pix didn't come out right, you could go retake it. My husband likes to take parades and stage shows. He hasn't been since '99, so he's planning on taking lots of slides next year. I worry about wrecking the film going through security at the airport, so doubly wish they could be developed while we're still there.
Originally Posted By brerroadrunner <<RoadTrip, do you know of a place at WDW that will develop the film?>> I have taken film to Winn Dixie at Apopka-Vineland and Lake Rd. for one day developing at reasonable prices!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 or if you don't want to take part in the Wal Mart experience - I believe the Walgreens not far away also has 1 hour service
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> I wish they would do something about this. I think that WDI could come up with something that would help with this if they put their minds to it. << You know what could work? You wouldn't want have to tell the guests to stay quiet. But you could do this naturally if the opening spiel text varied from one viewing to the next. Maybe three different scripts, so you'd not know which you were going to get. You could leave the animations the same.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> They actually encourage it on the new Seas with Nemo << I don't understand. How is it that they encourage using the flash on Nemo?
Originally Posted By Indigo I too have been wondering about how to solve this problem. I think Disney might have to overcome their policy of not offering slides or photos of attraction interiors for sale in their shops. They should sell a USB thumb drive with 2 GB of park photos with attraction interiors on it for chump change. (or bring your own thumb drive and get them for free.) Guests could then forget about photographing the rides and enjoy them instead.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal What is the suggested solution to Guests chiming in along with the Haunted Mansion narration? How is this a Disneyland management problem? What could truly be done to stop this? Other than ejecting every Guest who participates in such behavior, I suppose. What is the difference between Tokyo and Anaheim "management" that leads to fewer Guests speaking out loud? I don't get it. Do they kick people out? Drag them out while they're narrating? Stop the whole show for everyone and point out the behavior every time it occurs? Like in PotC the CM's announcements are not only ineffective but they're even more intrusive. I don't agree with the behavior at all, but what on earth - short of bodily harm - is the "management" supposed to do about it? I used to revoke Annual Passports from Guests who would get out and walk around on attractions, vandalize attractions, etc. so I know that could be done. And some of the Guests who are likely repeating lines, etc. probably have AP's because they're at the Resort more often. I guess that's one way to go about it. Take away the passports. But then that leaves you with many Guests who only have the one-day or Park Hopper. So do you just take it away? What is the real solution?
Originally Posted By Labuda "What is the difference between Tokyo and Anaheim "management" that leads to fewer Guests speaking out loud?" I believe it's more of a cultural difference than it is management.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I don't agree with the behavior at all, but what on earth - short of bodily harm - is the "management" supposed to do about it?>> I dunno ... but to just accept it is to further dumb down/WalMart both our Disney parkgoing experience and our society as a whole. People need to be considerate of others when they're in a publice place. They are less and less and the behavior just seems to get worse all the time. I won't accept the idea of just letting people do whatever the hell they want because it's the easiest option. I am thinking a written code of conduct might really be needed and handed out to guests as they enter. The little legal disclaimers about wearing shirts and shoes, smoking in designated places and not engaging in 'unsafe or illegal behavior' in small print on guidemaps just isn't cutting it.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< What is the suggested solution to Guests chiming in along with the Haunted Mansion narration? How is this a Disneyland management problem? What could truly be done to stop this? >>> Note that I referred to WDI as being who should come up with a solution, and not DL management. Perhaps the show could be changed so that there's some sort of live intro by a CM standing on a podium with a spotlight on them in the foyer, as is done with many other attractions. It could be all of 30 seconds, but it could be coordinated with the lowering of the ambient music along with some spiel that addressed the need to remain quiet until you leave the stretching room in order for the ghosts to be comfortable. The show in the stretching room could be changed to have a subtle and varying ending so that people would want to stay quiet to hear it. I don't have an exact answer, but I do think that a lot more could be done than what's being done now, which is essentially nothing. And I agree that a draconian enforcement program is not the answer.
