Originally Posted By oc_dean So here is a straight forward question: More people, obviously, have 2D high definition television sets .. than 3D .... So, why is Disney packaging only 3D Blurays?
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Do you mean packaging 3D discs without a copy of the 2D with it?
Originally Posted By mawnck >>So it appears Amazon is higher priced than Disney. << No. The Disney price you quoted was for the DVD. We be talkin' Blu Ray in this thread.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Do you mean packaging 3D discs without a copy of the 2D with it?<< Yep. The issue being that you can't watch a 3D disc without the glasses, a 3D TV, and a 3D Blu Ray player, which makes the 3D version a very expensive, limited-use item. It would appear that they think that either the "digital copy" version will be adequate, or that there will be enough demand for a separate 3D version to make a double-dip worth it. I think they're clucking fueless, but they run the home video department and I don't. There's a comment on Amazon, BTW, suggesting that one should order the UK 3D edition instead. it comes with a standard 2D Blu Ray, it plays on US machines (note: not verified by yours truly), and is CHEAPER than the US 3D-only version, even after international shipping! Which gives some credence to my theory that they're clucking fueless. A 2D Blu Ray without a DVD can be had on Amazon for $27.99, and a "digital instant video" is $14.99. So you can see where this is heading. But I still don't get it. Why confuse everyone with four different SKUs in the US alone? And $31.50 extra just to get the 3D? (Dear world: Digital instant videos SUCK! They're lower resolution than Blu Ray and are easily lost to computer drive failures, technology upgrades, and the copyright holder just deciding one fine day that they don't want you to watch it anymore. Stop with the digital downloads and stick with physical media! This also applies to the inferior-sounding music in the iTunes store. Rant over.)
Originally Posted By ecdc >>copyright holder just deciding one fine day that they don't want you to watch it anymore.<< That's the real issue, isn't it? Who hasn't had a title vanish from their Netflix queue just because the license agreement expired. I tried Hulu Plus for a month. What a baffling mystery that was - some shows had episodes missing, presumably because the contracts were hammered out prior to online streaming, and some guest star hadn't given consent, or some music license couldn't be obtained. Episodes of Saturday Night Live would be missing whole sketches or musical acts. Some shows were available to stream on my ipad (kinda the whole point of Hulu Plus), but others weren't. No explanation was given. This goes completely against the completist tendencies of today's audiences - completist tendencies the industry helped create and foster by selling complete seasons of TV shows, and by maintaining websites with episode listings and character descriptions. I can't help but wonder, after reaping in massive profits from home video, if the industry isn't regretting it a bit. Remember, prior to the advent of home video, no one would've thought they "owned" a movie. You watched movies at the theater or when they'd play on broadcast TV. Period. No DVR. No VHS, DVD, or blu-ray. Now it seems the industry wants to go back to those days - you don't own the film, you license it from us and watch it once. What'll really be supersweet* is when studios decide they aren't making enough money collecting a licensing fee from Netflix, et al, and they just launch their own streaming sites. Who doesn't want 10 different apps for their TV with 10 different logins? Who doesn't keep track of exactly which studio has the rights to distribute which films? Long-winded rant over. *By supersweet, I mean bloody awful
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "We be talkin' Blu Ray in this thread." 2d BLUE RAY with Disney is $29.99, Amazon's 2d Blue Ray price is currently $31.49 WHICH IS MORE THAN DISNEY!
Originally Posted By mawnck >>2d BLUE RAY with Disney is $29.99, Amazon's 2d Blue Ray price is currently $31.49 WHICH IS MORE THAN DISNEY!<< (1) Movie club. (They also have the 3D edition for 30 bucks.) (2) Amazon has free shipping, Disney doesn't. (3) I took the word of your post 256, which says DVD, not Blu Ray. A typo perhaps? (4) Please don't yell at me. It's been a rough week.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance lol Not really. I was just commenting on how I always end up feeling guilty about things I say to you.
Originally Posted By mawnck Oh .. I thought you were accusing me of feeling guilty for stuff I said to you. It HAS been a rough week! (Fortunately one reason it's been rough is that I'm on vacation next week and I had a lot of loose ends to tie up. I probably won't be on here much next week .....)
Originally Posted By ecdc >>(4) Please don't yell at me. It's been a rough week. << Sorry to hear it. Hope not like...someone died rough. Hope the vacation is good and at a most excellent, non-Disney locale
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance lol Jim, it's nice to know you still care after all these years.
Originally Posted By leemac <<There's a comment on Amazon, BTW, suggesting that one should order the UK 3D edition instead. it comes with a standard 2D Blu Ray, it plays on US machines (note: not verified by yours truly), and is CHEAPER than the US 3D-only version, even after international shipping! Which gives some credence to my theory that they're clucking fueless.>> Disney's UK 3D titles have been region free for a while so there is no region coding to get in the way of using them in the US.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Sorry to hear it. Hope not like...someone died rough.<< No no no no no, nothing like that. Just very busy and a bit stressful. >>Hope the vacation is good and at a most excellent, non-Disney locale<< It's a stay-cation, and one of the excellent non-Disney locales I will be visiting is a certain theme park in nearby Anaheim, which I have not darkened the entrance of for at least two years.
Originally Posted By kennect what gives here? I pre-ordered the film from bestbuy. they finally charged me for it yesterday, which I thought was weird. so I checked my order status and it says it's on it's way as of 6/1. doesn't quite right to me. who knows?
Originally Posted By mawnck Finally saw the fool thing. At the cheapo theater, in 3D. I found it a tolerable diversion. Was amused by some of the MGM-isms they did manage to sneak in there. Would recommend it, to the extremely bored, over whatever donkey poop they're showing on TLC these days. Can't help but note that MGM's Oz looked WAY more magical than Disney's CGI one. I know we were having that discussion somewhere on these boards a few weeks back, but it really hit home in this flick.
