Initial Oz reviews are baaaaadddddd......

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    Originally Posted By leemac

    <<As for Oz, I'm on the fence. It's probably going to come down to "what else is happening next Friday?">>

    Which is a terrible shame considering the source material and the opportunity to really make a great feature. I really liked Alice but can understand why some people didn't care for it - but it was pure Burton magic - he is one of the few directors (with Chris Nolan) to really put his paw prints over a film. Raimi just isn't in that category - I still think he was lucky to have a great cast and phenomenal script on two of the Spider-Man movies (the third was absolute garbage) so I don't think he has the ability. Some of his camera angles were too gimicky for me by far.
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    Unfortunately the IMAX screen is in Vienna, so I have to watch it on a traditional screen.

    I just read in the German WSJ, that WDS president Alan Horn ordered to add the flying monkey after the film was nearly finished. And that he added another 15Mio to the budget.
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    >>>I really liked Alice but can understand why some people didn't care for it - but it was pure Burton magic - he is one of the few directors (with Chris Nolan) to really put his paw prints over a film. <<<

    I agree on Alice and Tim Burton, because I also liked the Alice movie and nearly all other Burton films as well, but what's so great about Nolan.

    The Batman Trilogy was okay, with one really good movie and the credit for that goes to the great Heath Ledger. Batman Begins was good, but I prefer Tim Burton's Batman. The Dark Knight Rises was a disappointment and the worst of the trilogy.

    Inception was very good and it is one of my favourite films.

    The Prestige is also a good movie, but nothing special. However better than the last Batman movie.

    Memento was great and until now I haven't seen Insomnia.

    For me Nolan is a good director, but not that special as many think he is.

    As for Sam Raimi, I don't know much about him, because I've only seen the Spider-Man trilogy. Part 3 was really bad, but I liked the first two.
     
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    Originally Posted By Witches of Morva

    ORDDU: Well, my sisters and I managed to conjur up this movie in our crystal ball just last night--and we LOVED it from beginning to end.

    ORWEN: Kind of makes you wonder if the people who hate it so much saw the same movie we did.

    ORDDU: Everyone turned in fantastic performances. James Franco wasn't at all 'stiff' as some have claimed. He was the perfect con artist.

    ORWEN: And Michelle Williams was very sweet and innocent as Glinda. I think some people don't relate well, these days, to sweet, innocent characters so they write them off as being bland. What they don't see is the inner strength it takes to be so pure. That's a shame because it's the good characters that you're supposed to indentify with and support. I guess being evil is the 'in' thing for most people these days.

    ORDDU: And that certainly describes the two wicked witches to a 'T'. Both gave very credible performances and the entire movie left us spell bound. We're already anxious for the sequel!
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    Split decision in our home. I was pleasantly surprised and enjoyed it a lot after going in with low expectations. My wife really wanted to see it and thought it was only so-so.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>My wife really wanted to see it and thought it was only so-so.<<

    Obviously your wife just enjoys being negative for the sake of being negative. ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By doombuggy

    "Mila Kunis can't act at all"

    Shes ok doing comedy but a serious role shes awful. Her witches cackle in the trailers just sounds so bad and forced.
     
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    Originally Posted By Witches of Morva

    ORWEN: As an expert on witch's cackles, I couldn't disagree with you more, doombuggy, duckling. Mila Kunis did a fine job in her role. I can't wait to see her again.
     
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    Originally Posted By doombuggy

    I am hoping they use "studio magic" so she sounds better then she does in the trailers.
     
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    Originally Posted By doombuggy

    P.S.

    I'd rather they got Billie Hayes to at least dub it.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    "I really liked Alice but can understand why some people didn't care for it - but it was pure Burton magic"

    Well, it was pure Burton. To me, Alice represented both the best of Burton and the worst.
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    If other people think the performances by Michelle Williams, Mila Kunis, and Rachel Weisz ... were so stellar (they could practically get an Academy Award for their work) .. please chime in ... and prove us wrong!
     
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    Originally Posted By andyll

    <<Breakeven is over $600m.>>

    I don't understand this. Only 10 movies last year did over $600WW. Only 13 did over $500WW
     
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    Originally Posted By Manfried

    I thought Michelle Williams was stale. I actually liked the other two ladies.
    The monkey steals the whole show.
    The script was written by a Script Writing 101 student. (I know it wasn't, but it sure came across that way.)
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    Lee I didn't realize it opened in that many foreign markets. Though I don't think it opened in China yet.

    Still making it to at least 200 million in the states shouldn't be an issue

    Its opening was slightly below 80 at 79. Only Wolverine opened 85 and finished below 200.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    Lee I didn't realize it opened in that many foreign markets. Though I don't think it opened in China yet.

    Still making it to at least 200 million in the states shouldn't be an issue

    Its opening was slightly below 80 at 79. Only Wolverine opened 85 and finished below 200.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    Alice had a multiplier of 2.8 after its opening weekend. If Oz follows that same trajectory it should end up aroud 222 million
     
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    Originally Posted By Manfried

    If it opens in China, will they rename the doll? Sorry, had to ask. Couldn't resist the ironic and sarcastic comment.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dave

    >>>>Obviously your wife just enjoys being negative for the sake of being negative. ;-)<<<

    Sounds like Lee
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    >>I don't understand this. Only 10 movies last year did over $600WW. Only 13 did over $500WW<<

    Yet another high-profile example of Iger's questionable strategies. Eliminate the chance of getting a 'single' or 'double', and only aim for home runs. When they're a hit, it's great; they create merchandise, park attractions, and spawn sequels. When they miss, they miss in the most spectacular way imaginable. And given that there will always be more misses than hits, it only seems smart to aim low some of the time and be surprised by the results.
     

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