Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Espeially when you consider the importance of work that was being done. It's sad when you see a program that was implemented more than a half century ago, be so short changed after so many advances, and sacrafices. >>> Is this the same MPierce that in another thread was decrying the growth of the federal government, wasteful spending, and a return to the model of the nation that the Founding Fathers had in mind? I don't remember reading anywhere in the Constitution that we should fund an expensive manned space program. Why not let the private sector run and fund the space program? If it's in the national economic interest, then market forces will cause companies to step forward and make the necessary investments to the extent that they see a profit potential.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Not one Prez has fully supported NASA since JFK really. LBJ tried, but had his hands full with a war we didn't belong in (funny, if you consider war funny, how history repeats itself). No one has fully grasped that exploration is part of the human condition/evolution. After all, we are destroying this planet pretty well, so we owe it to ourselves to spread the love amongst the cosmos. I doubt anyone here thinks I have any lost love for the last Prez. Matter of fact, about the only thing I totally supported him on was his goal for a moon base and onward to Mars. Only problem was it was all rhetoric with no billions set aside to make it happen (and countless billions going to our war machine and Wall Street) ... It's beyond pathetic to think that in the 19freaking60s we could land men on the moon and safely return them to Earth and in anothet year we'll have no viable (and the absurdly bad shuttle program was never viable at much other than being a truck, costing way too much and ... oh yeah, killing astronauts) way of sending an American man or woman into space unless we send them to Russia. It kinda reminds me of flying period. We don't move forward really. We killed the Concorde ... and we now make it so uncomfortable and unpleasant that you have to be George Clooney to enjoy the experience really ... nothing like being stuffed in a packed coach cabin of a 20-plus year-old MD88 or 737. Now ... what were we talking about?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Is this the same MPierce that in another thread was decrying the growth of the federal government, wasteful spending, and a return to the model of the nation that the Founding Fathers had in mind? I don't remember reading anywhere in the Constitution that we should fund an expensive manned space program. Why not let the private sector run and fund the space program? If it's in the national economic interest, then market forces will cause companies to step forward and make the necessary investments to the extent that they see a profit potential. << Yes the same one, and two totally different matters. I think you know that, and for some reasons have your sights set on me. Believe me I will be more than happy to play that game with you. I never said Space should not be a venture by private business. They are attempting larger steps into Space each year. However the hugh amounts of money required for funding can substantally slow the process down. I have never said there was no place for Government involvement in some ventures. You will only here me crying foul when I see Government stepping in, and attempting to take over industries that have historically been runned by a free enterprise system. For instance you will never here be crying about Government funding of the Military. You also know the founding Fathers could never invision where the Government was going. They also couldn't envision the mass number of projects the Government would be forced to be involved in due to technology advancements. I can't list all the things I think the Goveernment has a legitatment right being involved in. If you don't see the stratigic reasons for our Government to be involved in Space, not to mention the humanitarian reasons, I'm afraid I can't help you see the difference. I'll anxiously be awaiting your next snide remark.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper We are Americans because of explorers. The American West is...well..the American West because of explorers. You like that satellite television you get? Thank the explorers. I don't want to live in a world where exploration is extinct and the federal government should always play a role in that in this one person's opinion.
Originally Posted By jkayjs OK I think the name of the restuarant is 'Oh Shucks Raw Bar'. Also this website has a lot of info in general~cocobeach.com. Hope this helps. Now gentlemen you can resume the 'snarking' sorry for the interruption.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Now gentlemen you can resume the 'snarking' sorry for the interruption. << Thank You.
Originally Posted By mousermerf I'm gonna fess up, I keep waiting for this topic about Port Canaveral to get interesting..
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I'm gonna fess up, I keep waiting for this topic about Port Canaveral to get interesting.. << You have to be a Space Junkie for that to happen.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> You have to be a Space Junkie for that to happen. << Merf prefers conversations that allow him to practice his righteous indignation. If someone would insult his career choices, we might get to see that happen.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Merf prefers conversations that allow him to practice his righteous indignation. If someone would insult his career choices, we might get to see that happen. << Righteous indignation is always fun. Don't you think so Leo?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> ^^How dare you ask me a question! << Sorry, I share your indignation.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Now gentlemen you can resume the 'snarking' sorry for the interruption.>> I bet you can snark quite well on your own ... for a lady!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Merf prefers conversations that allow him to practice his righteous indignation. If someone would insult his career choices, we might get to see that happen.>> Or you could ask him about WDI and painting the swing ride at DCA ... but if you want, I'll insult his career choices?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Sorry, I share your disgust, and contempt.>> I refuse to share my disgust or contempt with anyone ... wait, is that what I do here?
Originally Posted By jkayjs <<I bet you can snark quite well on your own ... for a lady! >> Spirit my dear I'm afraid you know me all to well.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I refuse to share my disgust or contempt with anyone ... wait, is that what I do here? << I guess you could say it's more of an indepth analysis of the current situation of TWDC as seen from a lifetime AP holder, lifetime Disney Fan, and World Wide travler, and connoisseur of theme parks. Rather than rantings of indignation, and disgust of a mad man, which I'm sure is the way Disney Executives refer to them.
