Originally Posted By patrickegan Unfortunately I don’t have the luxury of time necessary to compose diatribes for internet forums.
Originally Posted By jonvn You seem to. Whatever. The thing is that the war is now very unpopular. And we'll see how this translates in November.
Originally Posted By patrickegan Multitasking- Well, if the polls are anything like they were in the last couple of cycles…. Personally, I’m not in favor of the way the war is going/fought as I believe they are trying to win this thing (or not) with Salvation Army tactics!
Originally Posted By jonvn I was actually for going in there, since I was idiotic enough to believe the government was telling the truth about WMD and that there was an imminent threat to our safety. Since it turns out that not only were those statemetns not true, but that large amounts of evidence were flat out ignored that disputed such ideas. We went into Iraq on false pretenses. And we've really made a mess of it. Now, we're just there as sitting ducks with our soldiers being maimed and killed for absolutely NO reason. For once we leave, the area will fall to civil war, and the terrorists will have yet another haven that they did not have before.
Originally Posted By patrickegan I support the mission and the troops but we need to clampdown now!!!
Originally Posted By jonvn And even if we wanted to clamp down on them, we don't have the troops needed to do it.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Can't forget parrot mode.> I said what I said because it was true. <I'm not the one who added some extra wording to a definition.> I'm not either. <We had NO reason for going into Iraq.> Actually we had lots of reasons for going into Iraq, and what is happening in Iraq now is not as you described it. I find it funny that on one thread you complain that we're not doing enough about North Korea, and that on others we did too much about Iraq. Try a little consistency.
Originally Posted By jonvn It is amusing how every single time when there is a topic like this, it somehow gets derailed. It's as if a discussion on the subject is not desired somehow. Hmm. Back to the topic, support for the war is continuing to dwindle as people realize what a disaster this has been for the country. The Republicans are really running scared and distancing themselves from the President. It looks like the Dems might take both houses, but that's still up in the air. It's not looking too good for the right wingers in the country when even people like Bob Barr are starting to call them out on their incredible series of blunders and abuse of our freedoms.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <It is amusing how every single time when there is a topic like this, it somehow gets derailed.> Yes, as soon as it is pointed out to the Bush haters that they have no evidence to support their opinions, they start arguing about the argument, and hope no one will notice they can't respond with facts.
Originally Posted By jonvn More word games. Keep trying to derail the topic. Which, going back to it is: Public support for the war is rapidly falling off. Two thirds of the public no longer support our being in Iraq. And no moatter what sort of word games some individuals wish to play in order to evade it, that's what is going on right now in the country.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <More word games.> No, just making an observation. <Two thirds of the public no longer support our being in Iraq.> Well, no. Sixty-four percent of those polled disapprove of how Bush is handling the war. Those two statements are not the same.
