Originally Posted By CaptainMichael Pumpkin Juice is better than anything I've ever had in a Disney park. Yes, even better than a Dole Whip... Now, back to your regularly scheduled thread.
Originally Posted By hopemax Re: Artists not having concept of costs... I remember at one of the NFFC panels, I think it was Terri Harden, talking about how frustrating it was at WDI sometimes. She would make a model, be told to modify something, make another model, make another modification. Rinse, repeat a couple more times, until pulling the first model and then being told it was perfect. And this wasn't a one project thing, it was a reoccurring situation.
Originally Posted By SeventyOne <Pumpkin Juice is better than anything I've ever had in a Disney park. Yes, even better than a Dole Whip...> Try it with vodka...that's the only way I can drink it, just not a huge fan. Now frozen Butterbeer--that's awesome. (Unfortunately it doesn't ship out-of-state well at all.)
Originally Posted By CaptainMichael <<<Try it with vodka...that's the only way I can drink it, just not a huge fan. Now frozen Butterbeer--that's awesome. (Unfortunately it doesn't ship out-of-state well at all.)>>> Ha, you would put vodka in it. I so wish Butterbeer could be bottled.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I remember at one of the NFFC panels, I think it was Terri Harden, talking about how frustrating it was at WDI sometimes. She would make a model, be told to modify something, make another model, make another modification. Rinse, repeat a couple more times, until pulling the first model and then being told it was perfect. And this wasn't a one project thing, it was a reoccurring situation. << I'm curious to know which frustrated her more. The cost that was being run up or having to modify her original creation.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I wish LeeMac would address this one without naming names. I bet you some people on the payroll are their own worst enemy.>> Not in my experience. I can't recall anyone "walking off" a job. Occasionally folks have given up on projects that they believed in passionately like the Morris/Delaney vision for PirateLand at HKDL or Baxter's "DCA is the entrance to Disneyland" concept. You do yourself no favors in any walk of life by simply giving up when you don't get your way or the going gets tough. You have to believe in yourself to deliver the best possible experience. All this talk of creative versus non-creative is baloney too. It is never black or white. I'm a "non-creative" but I'm always accused of siding with the creatives. I need to understand what they want to do and find a way to make it happen or moderate the compromises. << Maybe I'm just not capable of putting into words my opinions on this matter. I didn't mean to imply any Imagineer would walk off the job. Even though I've heard serveral complain about what they thought were exteme compromises made to their works, and reacted accodingly. I was merely trying to point out that art was their major concern, not the budget. It was not intended to chide either the artist or in your case LeeMac, the moneyman incharge of overseeing the project trying to maintain an acceptiable budget while not losing sight of the artistic side of the project. Both jobs or of equal importance, and are in a symbiotic type of relationship at best. Honestly LeeMac, how long do you think TWDC would last if the budget was left in the hands of the Imagineers. If you've only had the privaldge of working with very talented budget conscience Imagineers I envy your job. While there is no way I can compare my life experiences with TWDC to yours LeeMac. I am merely reacting to what Ive heard from former Imagineers. People like Eddie Sotto, Corrus, Manfried, and several that I can't remember the monikers they use. One in particular that I remember very well is a former Imagineer who post over on wdwmagic. He is an Independant Contractor now, and if I'm not mistaken worked on the Harry Potter Project at Uni. He constantly talked about the wasted money involved in several projects he was involved in with while at Disney, and the fact that he's learned how to produce the same high quality product working within the constraints of a restictive budget. Come on help me with the name of this forner Imagineer Leobloom, EPCOT Explore, Hokie Skipper, Spirit. Anybody that might have read one of his post. I'm only going on what these people have all said. If you see it differently LeeMac, I am more than willing to accept that as fact. >> You do yourself no favors in any walk of life by simply giving up when you don't get your way or the going gets tough. << You do if you want to remain a husband!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> ^^^A new country without an attraction isn't going to drive numbers. << I think it could drive numbers if it had the right ambiance, the right restaurant, and the right Streetmosphere. But certainly the nubers will always be better if you have a quality attraction.
Originally Posted By Rsey103 I had lunch today with my niece who's a Harry Potter fan (reads the books, sees the movies, etc.) She said her parents are thinking about taking her to see Wizarding World for her Christmas/birthday present. I asked her where would they be staying. She said Disney. In this case, Universal would be supplying a hotel customer to Disney.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^I'll never understand why people stay on Disney property when they aren't going to Disney. It's an inferior product when compared to most of the accommodations in Orlando, at a significantly higher price.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> ^^^I'll never understand why people stay on Disney property when they aren't going to Disney. It's an inferior product when compared to most of the accommodations in Orlando, at a significantly higher price. << At the price point Disney charges, I would think I could find better options for a room if I were going to see Harry Potter. That is unless I thought Harry Potter was at Walt Disney World.
Originally Posted By Manfried At Disney, the Wilderness Lodge. Off Disney, there are several nice places along International Drive.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<They would going to Disney, too. Where do you suggest they stay, Hokie?>> Ah, well that's a different story. But if they weren't going to Disney, as Manfried said, there are plenty of places along I-Drive that are closer to Uni, with a better bang for your buck.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> They would going to Disney, too. Where do you suggest they stay, Hokie? << You left that fact out of your original post. Here is what you said >> I had lunch today with my niece who's a Harry Potter fan (reads the books, sees the movies, etc.) She said her parents are thinking about taking her to see Wizarding World for her Christmas/birthday present. I asked her where would they be staying. She said Disney. In this case, Universal would be supplying a hotel customer to Disney. << So therefore they will be staying at Disney where they would have stayed anyway. Only now they will be going to Uni rather than spending that particular time, and money at WDW. So therefore Uni is losing nothing, only gaining. I'm sure the Skipper could offer up a number of alternative places to stay. As well as others in this forum could. Myself I'm partial to Disney resorts for a number of reasons. However if "I" were going to see Harry Potter, I would be staying at a Uni resort. Then transfering to a Disney resort for my time at WDW. Strictly my opinion.
Originally Posted By Rsey103 >>So therefore they will be staying at Disney where they would have stayed anyway.<< Without Universal's Harry Potter, they wouldn't be thinking about going to Orlando at all this year....
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself MPierce, I believe you're thinking of whylightbulb. He was indeed involved with the show installation on Forbidden Journey.
Originally Posted By -em So I've been wrestling with where to go take pictures on my days off this week... I haven't hit the Studios and Epcot for a few weeks now but I really want to get back to Universal and hit Potter again and see Uni 360... Justification- Hit Studios after work tomorrow for an hour or so and hit Uni again on Wednesday- -em
