Originally Posted By TTA <<Except that J.K. Rowling is getting nearly all of the merchandise revenue.>> Either way, TDO could consider it a potential loss of revenue if the guests spending dollars are fixed per vacation/trip.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "I know I'm just a blip on the radar but in the 2 trips to Potter I've made in the last 3 weeks I've spent about 70-75 bucks compared to the 30-40 I've spent at WDW in the past oh 5 months" Sure, you may consider YOURSELF a "blip" on the radar, em, but when there are thousands and then TENS of THOUSANDS of you, that blip becomes a VERY noticeable change to the ledgers for both companies. And we KNOW how much the Rat's sharp pencil boys HATE it when the numbers start trending downwards.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "I know I'm just a blip on the radar but in the 2 trips to Potter I've made in the last 3 weeks I've spent about 70-75 bucks compared to the 30-40 I've spent at WDW in the past oh 5 months" See I don't get this argument. WHAT attraction is STILL "the toast of the town" five years after opening? EE? TOT? Soarin'? I just don't understand the higher expectations people have put on this new "land"(because this is bsaically what it is)and the higher returns people expect from it. Oh but I DO know that when attendance and merch sales DO drop over time(as they WILL and SHOULD), all the DisDweeb apologists will be on here as fast as they can saying how HPland is a "FAILURE!!!!!" and a "waste of money!!!" It WILL happen.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 And of course my statement above should be referencing THIS quote below, ">>The big question still remains though. Will Harry still be going great guns this time next year. Only time will tell.<< In a year? I think there is a very good chance that Harry will still be the toast of OTown. 5 years? Maybe not so much."
Originally Posted By dshyates In regards to Universal's merchendising agreement, from what I am hearing, Universal' got a MUCH better cut than the 10% that was offered to Disney because Universal in their pitch offered a lot of product development as part of the pitch. Universal developed over 600 pieces of exclusive merchendise. The rumor is that Universal got 40% and J. K. got 40% and Warner Bros. got 20% since they didn't create OR develop any of the merchendise. But Universal is giving a portion of thier 40% to The Noble Collection on the items that they developed such as the Hero Wands, Time Tuners, and the Broomsticks.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper This just in: Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey takes a dump on every the mouse has ever done in Florida. It is far and away the best themed ride experience I have ever had.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>It is far and away the best themed ride experience I have ever had.<< Expect more package discounts from Disney
Originally Posted By fkurucz In many ways Disney Management reminds me more and more of the management that ran the big 3 automakers into the ground. I expect that its only a question of time before they start to blame the CMs for the parks' problems.
Originally Posted By MousDad >>This just in: Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey takes a dump on every the mouse has ever done in Florida. It is far and away the best themed ride experience I have ever had.<< EE didn't take the chicken-out exit, did he?
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>EE didn't take the chicken-out exit, did he?<< No, sir. He did not. EE loves himself some HPatFJ! Even when the ride breaks down and he (and I) get evac'ed off of it.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer They win. End of thread. Just got back yesterday, and they are doing everything Disney hasn't been doing for the past 10 years. That makes me incredibly sad. But then I realize that quality like this is still possible, and that's a fantastic thing. Hope Disney competes....because they are getting slaughtered now.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>UO winning the substance war the Mouse can live with, apparently. UO winning the merchandise war? Oh, that must be driving the Mouse absolutely bonkers.<<< They are loosing both. Badly. If they are smart, they'll try to change that....
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>The big question still remains though. Will Harry still be going great guns this time next year. Only time will tell.<<<< I totally think it will be. The magnitude of this is big enough to keep it going for some time.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I am glad (sad) to hear this. I always want Disney to be the best, they set the bar, and so I naturally want them to continue to do this. But at least WWoHP shows us it is still possible. Problem is, there are a lot of people who have been brainwashed and think of anything outside the house of mouse as being inferior, even when they have not tried it. But I am glad you thought WWoHP was so awesome.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo IOA now really has quite a line up - Spider Man, WWoHP, JP and Cat in the Hat is a very compelling line up, even if you take the coasters out of the equation.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Sure, you may consider YOURSELF a "blip" on the radar, em, but when there are thousands and then TENS of THOUSANDS of you, that blip becomes a VERY noticeable change to the ledgers for both companies. And we KNOW how much the Rat's sharp pencil boys HATE it when the numbers start trending downwards<<< I was one of those last night. Spent more money on merch and food in WWoHP than I did at Nightastic. ;-)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>See I don't get this argument. WHAT attraction is STILL "the toast of the town" five years after opening? EE? TOT? Soarin'?<<< The thing is, none of those even come CLOSE to what WWoHP is. Kills me to say that, but it's true. Very true. WWoHP transcends those, because they don't have the full package of immersion like WWoHP does. EE comes close with it's queue, but WWoHP is so incredibly layered that it wins out. EE and S' still get waits, though. HP will too.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>No, sir. He did not. EE loves himself some HPatFJ! Even when the ride breaks down and he (and I) get evac'ed off of it.<<< That was fantastic. Can't stop thinking about it. Can't wait to see the pics, too.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>^^Bummer. Did you guys get a functioning ride in?<<< Yep. One. In the morning. When we came back at night is when it went down. We made the news, too... <a href="http://www.wftv.com/news/24375490/detail.html" target="_blank">http://www.wftv.com/news/24375...ail.html</a>
