Originally Posted By Mr X "How did you know I live in a glass house" "Because we can see your nuts" rotflmao.
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Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<<I know ecdc much like the muslims liberal have to by law defend another lib...>>. <<With such a hateful opening statement, I'm not persuaded to read any more of your post.>> I give you credit for even understanding what it said.
Originally Posted By Labuda "Do a search of his name on these boards you will find SPP even attacking Labuda at one point." And you know what? I'm sure he had good reason for whatever he told me. Yeah, SPP is a bit blunt at times, but those of us who are intelligent tend to lose patience easier than sheeple. "(I guess that makes me a real B+ hippie when you come right down to it, but I'm okay with that)." No granola for you! Signed, Your loyal A+ hippie friend
Originally Posted By Labuda "Salaam alukam...peace be upon you." Is there not an "a" or "ah" at the start of that? It always sounded like that on Oz, when I first was exposed to this wonderful greeting, so when I use it, I do the "ah"... am I incorrect?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Salaam alukam is the greeting, responded with alukam asalaam. I believe. But most muslims I know are great, moral, giving and independent thinkers. Can't say the same for some other faiths and politics I have come across.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Oh, and x, my real issue, I didn't want Bin Laden to become more of a martyr. Using the international courts and punishment of that ilk would have lessened the reprisal potential.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Now I do belive Bush is a war criminal and should stand trial however. There were no UN Security council resolutions that enabled him to send people into Iraq (as well as destroying the site of the ancient gardens of babylon where a US base was located with his sign off). There was a resolution to go after Al Quieda and the Talyban however.
Originally Posted By Labuda "Salaam alukam is the greeting, responded with alukam asalaam. I believe. But most muslims I know are great, moral, giving and independent thinkers. Can't say the same for some other faiths and politics I have come across." Ditto, but considering that I've only ever known three people who are practicing Muslims, I feel it would be unfair of me to say what you did since, well, I don't have that much experience with those who practice that faith. I'm MUCH more familiar with Jewish & Christian folks.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Lol, yep, I know folks of many faiths. The most common people of faith in my industry are mainly Buddhists. They are very cool, problem is, I am a carnivore.
Originally Posted By Donny Bush and the U.S. congress did have U.N. authorization The position of the US and UK is that the invasion was authorized by a series of UN resolutions dating back to 1990. Resolution 1441 declared that Iraq was in "material breach" of the cease-fire under UN Resolution 687 (1991), which required cooperation with weapons inspectors. The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties states that under certain conditions, a party may invoke a "material breach" to suspend a multilateral treaty. Thus, the US and UK claim that they used their right to suspend the cease-fire in Resolution 687 and to continue hostilities against Iraq under the authority of UN Resolution 678 (1990), which originally authorized the use of force after Iraq invaded Kuwait.[47] This is the same argument that was used for Operation Desert Fox in 1998.[48] They also contend that, while Resolution 1441 required the UNSC to assemble and assess reports from the weapons inspectors, it was not necessary for the UNSC to reach an agreement on the course of action. If, at that time, it was determined that Iraq breached Resolution 1441, the resolution did not "constrain any member state from acting to defend itself against the threat posed by Iraq".[49]
Originally Posted By Donny Here are the Iraq WMD's <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/ns/world_news-mideast/n_africa/t/secret-us-mission-hauls-uranium-iraq/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25...um-iraq/</a>
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Interesting, these have been deemed to not be legal measures for Iraq 2 under British law and Blair was forced to give evidence in inquiry. The resolution was not given the appropriate mandate and therefore was in contravention of it's governance for interventions under the Westphalia treaty.
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Originally Posted By davewasbaloo and what we are seeing is not a circus? There are ways and means, and the way the USA chants have been carrying on are plain mean, sick even. Lick Joe the Plumber really had is hand in any of this. I worked on some counter terrorist stuff before, and belive me, from the evidence in national security and terrorism intelligence, the more international legitamacy that can be garnered, the more fluid the ability to cut off terrorist sects. I am not sad at the loss of this monster, I nearly lost my life because of him and food poisoning saved me. I did lose a work colleague I was supposed to be with and it has haunted me to this day. But I let my intellect lead me, not propaganda.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I give you credit for even understanding what it said.>> To be honest, I did have to read about ten times. 8^D
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I disagree, a trial would have been a ten ring circus. It would have led to more terror attacks, hostages being taken. This was the only option. Discussing how we got to this point is certainly valid, but the fact of the matter is the bastard is dead and deservedly so.>> We're in agreement on this one, DD. I'm glad that Team Six went in, got the job done, and left. Quick burial at sea to respect Muslim tradition of 24 hr timeframe, and withholding of the gruesome photos. I do not believe in capital punishment as a "deterrent" for crime, and firmly believe its general use is immoral 99% of the time. That being said, there are individuals who walk amongst us from time to time, who unfortunately rise to power as dictators and spread nothing but chaos and destruction, resulting in mass murders on a horrific level. Those are the individuals for whom capital punishment is the only affective deterrent, given the difficulty in containing and restraining someone with that level of influence. Osama was not your typical dictator, but the mindset was exactly the same. Thankfully, these megalomaniacs are rare. But when they appear and gain massive amounts of power and control, you have to take them down. If that means an elite assassination squad, so be it.
