Originally Posted By jonvn The Sardine Factory was wear? In the Aquarium? I don't recognize the name off the top of my head.
Originally Posted By dshyates Yep. its still thre. It looks fantastic. <a href="http://www.sardinefactory.com/home/" target="_blank">http://www.sardinefactory.com/ home/</a>
Originally Posted By Nobody Sorry Jon. According to this (which meshes with my memory) it's on Wave St. and Prescott. <a href="http://www.sardinefactory.com/directions/" target="_blank">http://www.sardinefactory.com/ directions/</a> Thanks for the quick link dyshates.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror Was wondering how long it would take for this to happen. The placement of token San Fran buildings was always pretty stupid. You had no "gasp" or weenie potential, coming upon that section, even if they HAD built it up. Adding to or even replacing all that wharf area with a proper San Fran district permits a great view and approach from across the lagoon/bridge/promenade. It's the right place for it, and there's little in the current "SF District" of significance that anyone's going to miss if bulldozed/augmented beyond recognition.
Originally Posted By bartholomewneff I wonder if they'll change the bridge over the wharf to the Golden Gate?
Originally Posted By jonvn You tell us. Really, the bridge at the entrance was always just awful. The thing is gigantic. I don't know how you make it in miniature and place it in an area like that. They did it with the eiffel tower in World Showase by setting it back far enough so you don't actually get up close to it. It's a background piece more than anything. But is there room in DCA for such a thing?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros There would be room for it, but I don't think they would be able to put it in a place that would be reasonable from every angle. If they are transforming the Wharf area into SF, they could place the bridge on the roof of a near-ish building. To make sense geographic, they would need to place it on the opposite side of the water, but that wouldn't really work because of GRR and the winery. What I would expect them to do is something like the sailing ship in NOS that was added around the time of the Fantasmic! construction. They could easily place it on one of the existing roofs of the area, or plan it to go on top of something in Carsland. As long as guests aren't allowed a view from too far off in the other direction (which would inevitably happen), it wouldn't be that big of an issue for looking like it was far away. Placing it near the edge furthest from the Wharf would make it appear the farthest away, allow for open space behind it, and be the easiest to hide from the other side (just put the path right next to it, and it will be very difficult to see on top of the building). Whether or not they should actually do it? I don't really know. I'm not sure if the area would need it, but it certainly could be done if they wanted too.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "I wonder if they'll change the bridge over the wharf to the Golden Gate?" Good god, I hope not.
Originally Posted By jmuboy What about the new hotel they mentioned. Placed where the Timon tram area and taxi / shuttle drop off area is? Wouldn't the monorail and the chiller plant in that area be in the way? Other than that, having a hotel as the entrance to the resort from Harbor is a GREAT idea. Works wonderfully in Tokyo and Paris.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I belive the proposed site for the hotel would only be where the Timon Tram drop off area is. The rest of the dropp off areas would remain, as that would be way too much traffic to try to put out on the street (at least to do that and still attempt to call it "The Happiest Place on Earth). The chiller plant is behind Tomorrowland, which is on the other side of the drop-off plaza, so it wouldn't be that big of an issue. The Monorail runs off to the very edge of that area, so it's possible that the hotel just won't extend that far. If it does, it would have to pass over the backstage tunnel between DL and DCA, which would definately add to the cost. They could cut a hole in the hotel for the Monorail to pass through without many issues, but it would look a little silly near the end of the structure. They could also add another wing to the south, where the tram road currently lies, but that would be much tighter for space. The drop-off area is about 135 feet wide. For reference, the wings of the GCH are about 75 feet wide, the DLH towers are about 60, and the PPH towers are about 85. To get the road area to 75 feet, they would need to take out one side of the car passenger pick-up area. They could conceviably only have rooms on one side of the hall there, which would allow them to keep the current space the way it is. I'm still not convinced that they wouldn't want to do that in the tram area too, since the south side would be looking over a wall blocking backstage. Just due to the overall site constraints (accessability, proximity to the parks/breaking the illusion, etc), it would have to be a small hotel by nature, so a lot of these issues wouldn't really be that bad.
Originally Posted By gadzuux A new hotel would likely be broader on the first level than the 'tower' rising above. Typical hotel amenities like a restaurant and a pool would only add to the footprint. One way to allow for this added space is to have the hotel spread out to replace the empty (yet enormous) 'hollywood & dine' building. This would also allow a direct access between the park and the hotel.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros The only problem with that is that it would seperate the backstage area behind Monsters Inc, Millionaire, Muppets, and Greetings from the rest of backstage. I would assume that they would need access to that area for special events in the Millionaire building (As much as I wish they would just turn it into a normally operating attraction, I realize it's not going to happen any time soon), Greetings for restocking, and the Guest Services and Lost and Found counters that face the Esplanade for the random things that they would need. It would also give quite a few lovely views of "maintenence land" behind that area, which I don't really think would be the best idea ever. If they want a special entrance, they could do it through a bridge on the 2nd or 3rd floor (enough for clearance under it), with stairs and an elevator down into the park. If they want to avoid the feeling of being in a tunnel (which would also be an option, and a better one for long term, but I doubt they would do it), they could add windows that open to little landscaped scenes that block the view below, but still let light in (either do it with miniature hills in front of the window or vine-covered walls). I think a seperate entrace to the park would be great, but I think they need to keep backstage open, so the stuff that goes on back there can remain out of sight of the guests.
Originally Posted By bean the bus/shuttle loading area as well as the tram loading area would be reconfigrued. There is also the very large section of land before the ticket booths. That whole area has a very bad design with lots of wasted land.
Originally Posted By bean forgot to mention. the hollywood and dine building owuld not be touched that corner of the park has backstage area that is needed and the monorail track run right next to that building.
Originally Posted By Britain I'm excited about the prospect of a DLP-style "Entrance Hotel" replacing the bus/tram stops along Harbor. I do wonder how tall it can get though. For some reason I wouldn't mind seeing it poke up from behind Monsters Inc, but it sure as heck better not be seen behind Space Mountain. But what to name it? Disneyland Hotel would have been the perfect name, but that's taken. Hey bean, is renaming the current Disneyland Hotel a possibility?
