Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< But do those restaurants actually seat 500? >>> There is more than one seating in the restaurant for each show.
Originally Posted By SuperDry Al says that tickets to the viewing area will be issued to a specific zone, and that zones will be distributed randomly so that as long as you get your FPs before they run out, you have an equal chance at best or worst view regardless of whether you're first, middle, or last to get the FPs. But, how will this work in practice? This is similar to how they do lottery seating in Tokyo, but without the lottery component. In Tokyo, the machines have a video screen, and you insert all of the tickets into the machine, one at a time. When all of your tickets have been inserted, then you press a button on the screen, and it it either issues you tickets all seated together, or tells you that you lost the lottery. Doing away with the random lottery component, it seems that they'd still have to have the other component of you inserting all tickets for your party before it issues you any FPs - otherwise how could your party remain together? It seems completely unworkable to have each ticket issued randomly individually, as that would practically guarantee that every party would be split up. But, there's no user interface on the FP machines to indicate that your party has inserted all of your tickets. Will they add something, like a button on the front that's used for this purpose, and only when the machines are in WoC mode? Or, will they have a CM station at each machine that does something manually? Or perhaps both? It seems to me that they'll have to do something along these lines to make it work for WoC, unless they've done away with the idea of zoned FPs.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "The airspace above and around Disneyland (up to 3000 feet, up to 3 miles away) is designated "National Defense Airspace" and civilian use is prohibited, unless Disney requests a waiver for something they need. So I doubt there will be helicopters close enough and low enough to disturb the guests." Since when? I can recall seeing planes flying low enough to read advertisements above the park the last time I was there.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Since when? >>> More or less continually since national airspace was re-opened shortly after 9/11/01. <<< I can recall seeing planes flying low enough to read advertisements above the park the last time I was there. >>> Perhaps they were just over 3000 feet or just beyond 3 miles from DL.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 I know I may get a "boo hiss" for this but perhaps they should have a system where people who buy a one day pass or even the next one up AUTOMATICALLY get a special ticket to see WOC. The APers who pop in after work might have a chance to see this every day but if you're coming from across the ocuntry or even from somewhere around the world, this may be your only chance.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 Unfotunate typo aboce but I think you know what I meant. If you're offended, blame the site admins who won't pony up for an "edit" feature! ; )
Originally Posted By mickeymorris1234 Yes I got a call and they moved my reservation time too. Now I am seeing the second showing and the cast member said it is standing only.
Originally Posted By LuLu Yeah the zoned FP thing can't work. They're not gonna change the FP machines in 10 days. I wonder if they could be programmed to refuse you a FP if you've already gotten one that month, for instance? That would prevent APers from hogging up all the FPs Except they probably can't get FPs on work days anyway (assuming they work) since they'd have to be in the park early a.m.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Yeah the zoned FP thing can't work. They're not gonna change the FP machines in 10 days. >>> Sure they could if they wanted to. Not adding touchscreens - all they need to do is add a button on the front and change the software. And, if they are willing to have a CM stationed at each machine for the couple of hours needed to exhaust the WoC FP's, then they wouldn't even need that - it could be done with a special card that the CM inserts after every party's cards had been registered. This would also allow them to deal with the situation of making sure the green light blinked for every ticket inserted before the group's tickets were issued. Then it would be just a software change. Plus, if they plan to do this, this has probably been talked about for months internally already, so the work could almost be complete.
Originally Posted By Hista98 "The airspace above and around Disneyland (up to 3000 feet, up to 3 miles away) is designated "National Defense Airspace" and civilian use is prohibited, unless Disney requests a waiver for something they need. So I doubt there will be helicopters close enough and low enough to disturb the guests." Then why does maliboomer have a warning light above it for low flying aircraft? wouldnt it be unessacery if its restircted air apace??
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Then why does maliboomer have a warning light above it for low flying aircraft? wouldnt it be unessacery if its restircted air apace? >>> Although closed to civilian use, the airspace is still open to government use, which includes not only military aircraft but also various federal, state, and local law enforcement use, including local law enforcement helicopters. Plus, you have to consider aircraft on official Disney business that have been granted waivers, and the safety concerns for general aviation aircraft that are prohibited in the area by may nonetheless accidentally travel over it simply because they're unaware or perhaps lost. All of those reasons point to maintaining the beacons.
Originally Posted By DlandDug OK, so the announcement and press release are OUT! Here's the real deal: there are three ways to get into World of Color with a reserved view. 1. Fastpass, on a first-com, first-served basis. There is no mention of color coding or random selection, although there was an acknowledgement that there are three sections, left right and center, for the purposes only of determining which entrance the guest will use. 2. Dinner packages. As described on the boards, for Wine Country Trattoria or Ariel's Grotto. Guests opting for this will get "preferred reserved viewing." (That's a better viewing area than the regular reserved.) 3. Picnic meals. Four different meals, as well as a child meal, will be available for (hold on to your hats) $14.99. They may be purchased starting June 11 either by walking up to the Sonoma Terrace (the counter on the "San Francisco" side of the Golden Vine Winery), or on line (www.disneyland.com). These include a place in a reserved viewing area. In addition, the entire perimeter of Paradise Bay will be open for viewing World of Color. Obviously, some places will prove better viewing than others.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Okay, so the 500 or so meals at the sit-down restaurants, plus the much cheaper "picnic meals" of which they don't need to worry about a capacity must equal the 2,000 or so "dining packages". That makes a lot more sense. Picnic meals are part of the dining package number, obviously.
Originally Posted By socalkdg <<<< In addition, the entire perimeter of Paradise Bay will be open for viewing World of Color. Obviously, some places will prove better viewing than others.>>>> This should solve many of the problems as well.
Originally Posted By ni_teach I know that the fastpass tickets will drive a lot of people nuts. But the other choice is a free-for-all, which would be a much bigger disaster. So far of all the suggestions the FP system seems like the best and most controlled way to go.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance At least if you're from out of town and have your heart set on seeing the show while you're on vacation, you'd be able to reserve a seat long before you get there, by booking a dining package. And you won't have to worry about being one of the first, however many, to the FP machine in the morning.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< 1. Fastpass, on a first-com, first-served basis. There is no mention of color coding or random selection, although there was an acknowledgement that there are three sections, left right and center, for the purposes only of determining which entrance the guest will use. >>> One way to handle that would be to start issuing FPs all for the left section, then when those run out switch to the right section, then when those run out switch to the center section. This would mean that only two parties per FP machine would be split between sections, and those cases could be handled as manual exceptions. This is total armchairing by me - I just speculate that that's one way it could work to have FPs with reserved sections without changing the way FPs are issued.
Originally Posted By SuperDry ... and, $14.99 for a box lunch AND reserved seating seems very inexpensive to me.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Not to change the subject, but has it been confirmed that attractions on PP will be closed during the shows or not?
