Originally Posted By gadzuux If you support constitutionally protected civil rights for americans, then the ACLU is for you.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Lagally, you can't argue a winner withour legalizing every other type of marriage.. and that includes marrying my sister, mother, or the Johnson triplets.>> <--- Would really LIKE to marry the Johnson triplets. Sisters... Sisters... <<Sisters, sisters, There were never such devoted sisters. Never had to have a chaperone, no sir, I'm there to keep my eye on her. Caring, sharing Every little thing that we are wearing. When a certain gentleman arrived from Rome She wore the dress and I stayed home. All kinds of weather, we stick together The same in the rain or sun. Two different faces but in tight places We think and we act as one. Uh-huh. Those who've seen us, Know that not a thing could come between us. Many men have tried to split us up but no one can. Lord help the mister who comes between me and my sister, And Lord help the sister that comes between me and my man.>>
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA I think an organization that can open the discussion beyond 'We should all be Christian because America was founded on Christianity' is a good one. In order to progress, you have to allow other ways of thinking to infiltrate your point of view. And Beau, if you think about issues, and then decide that Christianity is the best way for you -- right on. But why does the entire nation have to?
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Read on a bumper sticker yesterday: "You don't like abortion? Good, don't have one" I enjoyed that.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET'S HEAR IT FOR THE HAINES SISTERS!!!!
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder What I want to know is does Road Trip own a couple of big feathered fans he could wave around while he sings. "Well, that was better than kissing my cocker spaniel."
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<What I want to know is does Road Trip own a couple of big feathered fans he could wave around while he sings>> Put me on a train with a dining car and a sleeper and I'll sing (and wear) anything you want!! I LOVE trains...
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Do I really need to like the ACLU lawsuits against Christians and Christian symbols ecdc? I can get you dozens if not hundreds... all set up to restrict a Christian from practicing their religion using a twisted meaning of church and state.> All right, Beau. Time to put up or shut up. I challenge you. Not for hundreds... or even dozens... Give me ONE lawsuit where the ACLU would have prevented a Christian from practicing his religion. Not a nativity scene on public property type of thing. That's controversial, but never stopped any Christian from going to church and practicing his religion. So give me one. Or stop claiming what you can't back up.
Originally Posted By MomofPrincess I used to weigh about 100 lbs more than I do now, so I totally understand the discrimination thing. Even though I always took care of myself, was outgoing and friendly, had my hair, makeup & nails done and wore nice clothes, I had doors slammed in my face, clerks who ignored me, people (mostly men) who wouldn't make eye contact with me, etc. etc. I lose the weight, and suddenly doors are being held, clerks are anxious to help, people who never gave me the time of day are suddenly my "friends," and everything I say is fascinating, funny and important. And I'm still the same ol' me on the inside. *shrugs*
Originally Posted By Mrs 2oon If I have ever been discriminated against because of my weight I am too naive to notice it. As a child I was not overweight, however, from 18 years old on I gained an incredible amount of weight. I have witnessed weight discrimination throughout my lifetime but have never felt that it was towards me. Last year I was a little concerned about my 25th high school reunion, however, I had nothinig to worry about. I do want to lose weight (desperately) but I am going to do it on my terms....not just because someone else thinks that I don't fit society's idea of an "ideal" weight. Regarding religion, I'm Catholic and have heard much negativity regarding my faith. Since I think that faith is a personal thing......I don't take what "others" say about my faith personally. I do have some negative thoughts about other religions but would never vocalize them because it's their own personal decision what they believe....just like it's my personal decision to believe what I believe.
Originally Posted By ecdc "*chirp* *chirp* *chirp*" Am I on Pirates floating through the Bayou? Oh...nope. Just Beau refusing to answer yet another question
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Give me ONE lawsuit where the ACLU would have prevented a Christian from practicing his religion.>> You have GOT to be kidding me Dabob. Do I really need to list the countless cases the ACLU has filed where they sue public officials to force them to remove Nativity scenes and Christmas trees from most public areas, remove crosses and plaques quoting Bible passages from national parks, censor any mention of God in any public discourse, strong-arm school administrators with misleading and threatening letters demanding the censorship of Christmas carols from school activities and the word Christ from any student speeches? This isn't preventing me from practicing my religion?? Sounds like communist China or Russia to me dude. Of course the founder of the ACLU, the liberal hero WAS a communist. How can you POSSIBLY defend this organization who's founder Roger Baldwin said THIS! Roger Baldwin: "I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class… Communism is the goal." It's groups like the ACLU that make it OK to attack a christian but make is a criminal offense to offend anyone else their liberal politics support.
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Originally Posted By Dabob2 <This isn't preventing me from practicing my religion??> No, it isn't Beau. You can practice your religion in the places where that is appropriate. The church and the home. And no one, including the ACLU, can stop you. Nor has the ACLU attempted to stop you from doing so. Can you practice your religion in, say, a school which is home to children from a dozen religions? Perhaps not. I didn't think you could give an example of how the ACLU had ever prevented anyone from practicing his religion. This confirms it. Thank you.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I think Beau forgot the question. He apparently got sidetracked by court costs and legal fees awarded when people do unconstitutional stuff. The question (still unanswered) was: <<All right, Beau. Time to put up or shut up. I challenge you. Not for hundreds... or even dozens... Give me ONE lawsuit where the ACLU would have prevented a Christian from practicing his religion.>>
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Looking at the list I just posted where the ACLU makes big bucks tearing down America I have a question. How are they HELPING America by tearing 50 year old Christian monuments down and putting the hammer down on prayer at a football game? The ACLU is simply the most vile, disgusting group in America outside Al Quida terror cells... possible worse as they have done huge damage to our nations culture and family structure.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Give me ONE lawsuit where the ACLU would have prevented a Christian from practicing his religion.>> Here is one from the list I posted. Tell me how this in NOT preventing a good man from NOT practicing his religion. And this is just one. <<After suing London, Ohio, for allowing their football coach to host a voluntary prayer for athletes, the ACLU was awarded $18,000 in attorney fees. >> But... the kicker RoadTrip in all this. If the football coach wanted to teach his kids how to lube up for gay sex before the game, the ACLU would support his right to free speech.
