Originally Posted By gadzuux I think he gets it from michael savage. It helps beau stay up-to-the-minute in gay put-downs.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Why is saying "gay bath house" a putdown? By the way, I never listen to Michael Savage. Notice how feisty people get when you say anything about gays but these same people love to hear anti Christian comments? Proves the point of the thread. It's also a postition that causes the left to lose elections because the majority of the nation is Christian and traditional. But we know this.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF >>Why is saying "gay bath house" a putdown?<< Never said it was, but ya know, out of all the people on this board, the only one I ever saw mention anything about a gay bathhouse is you. Not me, not Gadz, not I-57. You seem to have this...curiosity...about them. For heaven's sake, go to one and get it out of your system. >>Notice how feisty people get when you say anything about gays but these same people love to hear anti Christian comments? Proves the point of the thread.<< Not really. I don't particularly care to see people vilified for their religious beliefs, just as much as I don't like assumptions made about me because of who I am attracted to.
Originally Posted By JazzCat What I find interesting is when I started the topic, I never said one word about homosexuality. I said "certain lifestyles". That could mean drug use, alcohol abuse, rapists, child molesters. (BTW, I am NOT comparing homosexuality to child molesters!) In that case, it was a blanket statement, but it was other posters who brought up the homosexual spin on it. One thing I appreciate about cstephens is that she never jumped on that bandwagon. She wanted me to clarify what I meant and stayed with my original post. Gadzuux said: "Your faith is just that - yours. It's not a badge - don't flash it. " And your homosexuality is just that - yours. It's not a badge - don't flash it. It's not okay for you to tell me what I can "flash" and "not flash" if you are doing the same thing. What is this? Do as I say and not as I do?
Originally Posted By alexbook >>The ACLU will sue you if you try and practice your religion in the " wrong place ". But you already know this.<< No, but they'll sue you if you try to make the government spend my tax money to support your religion. >>Does the liberal, socialist based, ACLU ever sue Muslims??<< Not sure about Islam, but they've definitely sued over city-erected Jewish symbols. And here's an instance of an ACLU complaint about Islam, though it doesn't seem to have led to an actual lawsuit: <a href="http://www.becketfund.org/index.php/article/179.html" target="_blank">http://www.becketfund.org/inde x.php/article/179.html</a> "During the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, two public schools in Brooklyn and one in Queens decided to accommodate the religious practices of their many Muslim students. Specifically, Lafayette High School in Bensonhurst excused Muslim students for ten minutes from classes and allowed them to use the cafeteria to pray. When the New York Board of Education received a letter from the New York chapter of the ACLU (NYCLU) questioning the validity of the policy, they immediately admonished Lafayette for its accommodation, saying that no school can set aside space for a particular religion and that no student should be late for class."
Originally Posted By JazzCat And Beaumandy - thank you!!!!!!!! It's nice to have someone back me up! I got an e-mail from another poster who also backed me up but didn't want to get involved with WE. I don't blame her a bit.
Originally Posted By cstephens Beaumandy wrote: > Why is saying "gay bath house" a putdown? Well, if nothing else, it's redundant... /cs
Originally Posted By cstephens Oh, and I think Beaumandy made his point much better than Jazzcat did. It's not about discrimination. I do agree that in society, it is much more acceptable to make fun of certain things and segments of society than others. I do think people have to be much more supersensitive about making comments about some people. Perhaps some of that stems from history, but I do think it's unfair that some people are viewed as being untouchable as far as have any criticism directed at them. /cs
Originally Posted By alexbook >>It's also a postition that causes the left to lose elections because the majority of the nation is Christian and traditional.<< Yes, a majority is Christian, which takes us back to the question of how the majority can be discriminated against in the first place. For those who like numbers, check out this 2000 survey of religious affiliation in the U.S. Not sure if it proves anybody's point, but I found it interesting. Christians 76.5% Nonreligious/Secular 13.2% Jews 1.3% Muslims 0.5% Buddhists 0.5% Agnostics 0.5% Atheists 0.4% Hindus 0.4% Unitarian Universalists 0.3% Wiccan/Pagan/Druid 0.1% <a href="http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#religions" target="_blank">http://www.adherents.com/rel_U SA.html#religions</a> The Christians break down as follows: Catholic 24.5% Baptist 16.3% Methodist/Wesleyan 6.8% Lutheran 4.6% Presbyterian 2.7% Pentecostal/Charismatic 2.1% Episcopalian/Anglican 1.7% Latter-Day Saints/Mormon 1.3% Churches of Christ 1.2% Congregational/United Church of Christ 0.7% Jehovah's Witnesses 0.6% Assemblies of God 0.5% <a href="http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#families" target="_blank">http://www.adherents.com/rel_U SA.html#families</a>
Originally Posted By JazzCat Let's go back to my original post: My point of the entire topic was just as Beaumandy stated. Do you discriminate or put down Christians and overweight people? Why?
Originally Posted By JazzCat cstephens said, "Oh, and I think Beaumandy made his point much better than Jazzcat did." I must agree with that. I mean, he's gotten in alot more practice in WE than I have!
Originally Posted By cstephens JazzCat wrote: > Do you discriminate or put down Christians and overweight people? Why? So stop using the word "discriminate" when it's not applicable and totally nonsensical and muddies up what otherwise could be an interesting discussion. Do I put down Christians? Not as a general rule. However, I have a hard time understanding or dealing with people who claim to be Christians and are totally hypocritical and preach hate. Do I put down overweight people? Not to their face. Sometimes, I might make a smart remark about a celebrity or a generic person if I'm in particular company where there are no holds barred and we're ripping on anyone and everyone anyway. And yes, I've made fun of myself because of my weight. /cs
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Originally Posted By Beaumandy >>The ACLU will sue you if you try and practice your religion in the " wrong place ". But you already know this.<< No, but they'll sue you if you try to make the government spend my tax money to support your religion. >> Axel, there is a big difference between " supporting " religion and RECOGNIZING religion, which is what this country has always done even though the socialist based ACLU wants to make you think different. Did you know they used to have bible studies in the Capital building in Wash. DC? Would you be OK with that today? And yes, if your a bigger white person who happens to be a Christian and you drive a SUV then you are screwed!
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Then you'll be popular at the bath house.>> LOL.... that actually made me laugh.
