Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Uhm ... Kennect, I don't see anyone 'bragging' about how much they have to spend. I think you're reading something into posts that's not there. Either that or you shop at WalMart and drive Chevy's ... not that there is anything wrong ... with the latter.
Originally Posted By kennect Spirit, I guess you don't see anything going on here...Keep going with it....What a smart remark with your final line...I don't shop at Walmart and I don't drive a Chevy but you seem to have an attitude that is all knowing and all above others...That is simply nasty in my book...
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Also, VBDAD, did you notice I didn't take a shot at mrichmondj for shopping at WalMart? ... I thought it, but I didn't post it!< amazing restraint ! <I love my Mercedes. One of the best cars I've owned by far. I also am loyal to Honda as they have never let me down yet, either. I am intrigued by Lexus, but if I were to get one it would have to replace my Honda, not my Benz. < A huge Bimmer fan myself, just never found a Benz to handle like for like
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Spirit, I guess you don't see anything going on here...Keep going with it....What a smart remark with your final line...I don't shop at Walmart and I don't drive a Chevy but you seem to have an attitude that is all knowing and all above others...That is simply nasty in my book...>> What a crock. You have no idea what I am like. You only know me as an online poster and you're choosing to read an attitude in to something that does not exist. All knowing? Above all others? Hell, I wish. But, no, I am far from either of those ... far, far, far. Apparently, something in a post hit a nerve and you took it personally for some reason by accusing people here of bragging. I brag about my family and friends and accomplishments, but that's about it ... and I don't generally do so on Disney fan sites.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<A huge Bimmer fan myself, just never found a Benz to handle like for like>> Funny you say that. I had trouble ... if that's the right word ... getting used to my first C230, but once I did ... I just love the way the cars drive. They feel like all my old American muscle cars did, performance wise, yet are the most comfortable and inviting to just spend time stuck in traffic inside!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <...It seems that most of these threads like this end up coming down to a few members here bragging about how much money they have to spend...That is sickening to me...Great, you've got the bucks to spend...Go spread that news somewhere else on a financial forum where someone will care...Disney may not be what it has been in Florida but for the moment I am sick and tired of reading posts from people trying to out do someone else about what they have spend...Talk about a turn off for most any normal person that might visit this site in regards to WDW...Well, this type of talk is one... > hey lighten up Frances - no one is bragging - the topic turned to what it was. FYI - I grew up dirt poor from a family that no one ever went to college from. Grew up in a high crime area of Chicago and made something of myself -- if that disgust you - too bad. I AM a normal person -- not whatever it is you think...people here get told by another poster that people who drive nice cars and take fancy vacations are credit card maxed out the wazoo and living out of their means. Well I know what it's like to not have any means, and also to have some....they is no bragadosia going on from myself or any of the other posters I have seen here, many are regulars here for a long time. You know what turns me off, people who somehow feel offended by posts like have been on here...hey, no matter who you are likely there are people out there who have 100 times more...so what ? Doesn't make a person less of a person, and having been on both sides of that fence -- I can tell you that most people stay the same. If Stephen Jobs comes and posts on here ( and you are welcome Mr Jobs) - am I going to whine because he owns half of the empire? No...good for him,I am happy for him and never will attain what he has...again so what ? Does that make him more of a person than me - no ! And each persons opinion is worth the same amount here.....no one gets more of a vote, so to dis people because you have issues with their status or perceived status is wrong IMHO. But again, it's just my opinion and not worth more than any other here...but of course I am not ripping on people and telling them to post at other sites.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 And I completely agree with what VBDAD just spouted off at the keyboard even if he was wearing his tiara (and in a very weird change, DVC polo) while composing it. I have known and dealt with people that were homeless and people who were/are billionaires. I judge people based upon who they are, not how many toys they own. But, yeah, I sure want more toys ... Santa are you listening? Santa can you hear me?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I had trouble ... if that's the right word ... getting used to my first C230, but once I did ... I just love the way the cars drive. They feel like all my old American muscle cars did, performance wise, yet are the most comfortable and inviting to just spend time stuck in traffic inside!< of all the Benz's I like the C for 'feel' also, just like I think the 3 series for the money is the best Bimmer -- I think you may have hit it- the connection to the road feel of the old muscle cars -- like you are driving the car instead of it driving you.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^Bingo. That's exactly how I feel. My ONLY complaint with Hondas and I've had about a dozen in the past 20 years ... mostly Accords, a few Civics and a brand new Pilot! They feel way too 'soft' after I haven't driven them in a while.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I brag about my family and friends and accomplishments, but that's about it ... and I don't generally do so on Disney fan sites. < ditto Spirit, my proudest accomplishments in the world are : a marriage that has lasted 29 years, 2 wonderful daughters, and being the first in my family to graduate college and do so 3 times now. Those are accomplishments, things are not. Things come and go, and none bring you any satisfaction or comfort if you go through a health scare - trust me.
Originally Posted By kennect I doubt Mr. Jobs would come here and post about the car's he drives, etc..He would be way too much of a professional to do such....Just wish some others around here would act like that also...Sorry any of you disagree with what I said...
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^Absolutely. Even my wonderful collection of Disneyana ... I'd give it away in a second for my health or that of my family or friends. Now, to get this back on topic ... what kind of car does Kevin Yee drive? I picture him in a 2002 Camry, myself.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Uhm ... post No. 53 was in response to post 51 for those of you scoring at home As to post No. 52, why can't a bunch of us who are friends ... and VBDAD and I go back years here ... talk about cars? How does that destroy the fabric of anyone else's life? If you want to get this back on topic, by all means, post something and I, for one, will be glad to discuss it. I haven't really slammed Disney management in a while and am ready to take a shot. Otherwise, you're just wasting time that none of us is going to get back at the end.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I doubt Mr. Jobs would come here and post about the car's he drives, etc..He would be way too much of a professional to do such....Just wish some others around here would act like that also...Sorry any of you disagree with what I said...< so he would pretend to be someone he isn't ? That isn't being professional, that is being untrue to oneself and everyone else. If any of us drove a 1976 Karman Ghia with no heat, would that have been OK to post since someone else brought up cars ? But you're right, if he had to change who he was in order to post or get ripped for it, then he likely wouldn't come here.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Now, to get this back on topic ... what kind of car does Kevin Yee drive? I picture him in a 2002 Camry, myself. < hmmm.. practical and dependable...sounds like a good guess...but maybe....a hybrid ?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <As to post No. 52, why can't a bunch of us who are friends ... and VBDAD and I go back years here ... talk about cars? How does that destroy the fabric of anyone else's life? < exactly my thoughts, but what do I know...for a few posts I thought I was back in the World Events section...where everyone tells everyone else what is right and wrong. Plenty of posting police there
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Ok- we'll get this back on topic and just blame Trippy for getting us of the path --LOL! He's frozen anyway so he won't mind...I am talking to a friend of mine in the twin cities whose furnace has gone out and it is 54 degrees in her house and dropping.... OK as for Disney mgmt setting the bar at less than excellent for some guest experiences...it is unacceptable when the major theme that sets them apart from others is Quality. Quality has always been a Disney hallmark and needs to remain ingrained in the management philosophy....sometimes less is more ( think Pooh Playground here) - btw - Iger just named CEO of the year by Marketwatch.
Originally Posted By leemac <<But the constant dumbing down of the product has lowered the quality across the board and WDW continues to price the GF as a true 5-star resort when it isn't comparable to almost any Ritz Carlton or Four Seasons when it comes to the important things like cleanliness, upkeep and guest service.>> Guess it is all down to your own opinion. I would rate DAK Lodge as one of the finest resorts in the country. All-round excellence. GF doesn't do a great deal for me but it is still a 5* gem. The Sugarloaf service especially is exceptional. The issue will also be whether one of the deluxe resorts can be as good as the corporate hotel brands like Conrad, Westin and W. I'm in the Bellevue (WA) Westin this week and my room and the service is phenomenal. They are always there. But it is a different kind of clientele and the hotel is likely to run at 1.1 people per room (even when full) compared to the 2.9/3.1 range that WDW deluxe hotels run at.
Originally Posted By leemac <<In an effort to streamline their business, WDW has treated all its resorts in a very similar fashion. I have gotten far better service at the WL, PO and,yes, even Pop Century than I have at GF. That should NEVER, EVER happen.>> I disagree with the NEVER, NEVER. That is totally unrealistic. The service I get at the Hilton Tokyo Bay when I'm there on business is excellent. Significantly better than either of the OLC-owned Disney hotels. You need to limit the possibility of that happening but ultimately it will and you need to be realistic. Guests at WDW don't tend to pick hotels based on guest service experience. It is price point. Secondary to that might be things like a full-service restaurant, room service and a decent pool/spa. But price point rules at WDW which is why it is such a clever model. Plus I'd bet that a family at Pop Century spend on a daily basis along similar value lines as the equivalent family at GF (or maybe slightly less but ultimately that non-residential spend is not intrinsically linked to room rate). That is the genius of the model.
