Originally Posted By MPierce >> Yes, it's all available at their corporate website. << Thanks for the info.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 They automatically send it to all stockholders, unless you opt to get it on-line. My husband said they did a very "pretty" job of covering up stuff.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Best place to hide something is right out in the open, and load it with beautiful lively pictures. Figures don't lie, but liar can figure.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Figures don't lie, but liar can figure.< Ah, the golden rule of statistics
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 rats, I meant liars. Yup, I took statistics in college, loved what you could do to make numbers fit what you wanted.
Originally Posted By The Duck Why did 2 hotdogs with 2 cokes and chips cost almost $20.00?!?!?! That was the going rate at Disney Hollywood Studios.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Would have been more than $20 @ Blackhawks game at United Center if that makes you feel any better.
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^At least I can grab a bite to eat before getting to the game or wait until after. But its tough to go all day at a Disney Park without eating. Sure, you can leave and eat off property, but that's a major chore at WDW (which is why I like DLR better). And besides that, major league sports are in trouble. Lots of empty seats at the venues of the non top clubs. The Arena Football League cancelled its 2009 season. Major League Soccer has been bumping up its prices (a major mistake in my estimation) and might pay the price with reduced attandance. I have seen lots of empty seats in NHL games on TV. And baseball, well, if you aren't the Cubs/Yankees/Dodgers/RedSox you will be either discounting your tickets or playing in front of small crowds.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Would have been more than $20 @ Blackhawks game at United Center if that makes you feel any better.*** I just can't support this comparison with "event pricing", which has been over-the-top expensive since time immemorial (in my long life, anyway, it has always been this way...back when I was a youth my Dad was always shocked at the price of a "Fenway Frank" and a beer, but he bought em anyway with a shrug). The big difference imho, is that if you don't want to pay through the nose, you don't have to. You can dine before the game, or go out after. In any case, you're only inconvenienced for a couple of hours. At an amusement park or any other "all day" place, it's pretty unreasonable to expect people to exit the premises for a snack or a meal, and given the fact that Disney has always been "sort of" reasonable, this is troubling.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 One can always go off property also for a bite to eat as some here have been saying they'll do. For many of us the commute to the ballpark is 90 + minutes each way - add 3-4 hours for actual arrival to end of game - so we're talking 5 1/2- 6 hour commitment -- that is as long as many people spend at one time before heading back to hotel also - ( or out to the Wendy's I keep hearing about ) so sorry, I think the comparison is very valid. And no it wasn't always that way here say at Wrigley - it used to be very reasonable also yes I realize the escalation of prices is troubling - welcome to my world every day - sorry you all had to join
Originally Posted By Mr X ***so sorry, I think the comparison is very valid.*** Okay. Sorry you feel that way, but no, I don't think the comparison is valid at all. Because, as I wrote (maybe you didn't read it), it's a lot different when you talk about "event pricing". It just is. Maybe you can talk about a long commute, or other kinds of yada yada, but it doesn't change the fact that a couple of hours in some stadium generally equals stupid pricing. What is it that we are not getting through to each other here? There IS a difference, and it's mostly because we're talking the difference between a park (or in the WDW case, practically a city) vs. a stadium (exits easily available at any time). I feel like we're talking past each other here, and that's fine. But anyway, as I understand it event pricing is what it is. It's different from a park or other place where one might spend an entire day. You might argue semantics, but it's still ridiculous to compare one to the other imho.
Originally Posted By Mr X I swear to god though, listening to vbdad talking about Chicago and Illinois...I'm just SO glad I never set foot in the place (well, I've been to Illinois though, but never Chicago save for a drive-through on a bus)... Sounds like just South of Hell, if you ask me.
Originally Posted By Mr X Post 73 was me making a frustrated joke, by the way...hopefully no offense taken (Chicago RULES...I wanna visit someday!). In other words...just kidding (but, in a tongue in cheek fashion and giving a hard time to our very own Mr Chicago guy who obviously drives very far and pays lots of money to see losers play sports ).
Originally Posted By vbdad55 no offense taken -- The city is World Class in many things and I love living here ( well aside from winter now) - BUT: 1/ we have the most politically corrupt city ( and state) in the country - which becomes clearer every day as having Obama in the White House I believe has shone the light on people like Gov Rod ( our previous gov in prison) - Senator ( I really didn't lie completely) Burris - 2/ It's expensive as hell to live here -- 10.5% sales tax -- 3.5% state income tax ( headed to a min of 6% shortly)- some of the highest gasoline prices in the country - ditto for electric and gas.. out of sight property taxes ( $15000 + on a $400K house) - 3. And oh yeah - life as a Cubs fan is sort of like Hell on earth...
Originally Posted By vbdad55 btw- I am reading exactly what you're writing - but I will agree to disagree -- in each situation it is a 5 hour minimum commitment and people are a captive audience seeking entertainment -- you are being charged those prices because they can...period. here's another difference - one can leave WDW and re enter- leave Wrigley and there is no re entry - so the $7 hot dog is your only option
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad I have the solution. Let's move WDW to the Chicago area. Then it's prices will be in line with the surroundings. I think that's the difference vbdad. While their prices may not be out of line in Chicago they are out of line for the region in which WDW is located. It is like housing prices in California compared to Charlotte. That's why I say they need to have options for people from all areas.
Originally Posted By MPierce ^^^ You've got it pegged CDD. It all depends on where you live, and how use you are to getting screwed with high prices. WDW is way over the top for most people. If you are a family of 4 making a modest 5 figure income annually, WDW is a shocker. I would say WDW is a once in a lifetime vacation for many folks.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<For many of us the commute to the ballpark is 90 + minutes each way - add 3-4 hours for actual arrival to end of game - so we're talking 5 1/2- 6 hour commitment -- that is as long as many people spend at one time before heading back to hotel also - ( or out to the Wendy's I keep hearing about )>> I don't know what Wrigley's is like, bu there are plenty eateries withing walking distance of Coors field in Denver. Or during the drive down there are tons of places where we can stop to eat before the game, which is what we usually do. For the price of a hot dog, a couple of cokes and pretzel I can get a real meal. And Coors lets you bring in snacks. We usually buy a big bag of caramel or kettle corn at Sams' Club and take it with us. You do have to buy the overpriced coke however.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Why did 2 hotdogs with 2 cokes and chips cost almost $20.00?!?!?! That was the going rate at Disney Hollywood Studios.>> Ultimately because people are stupid enough to pay for it whether in advance with the DDP so they ignorantly think they're getting a 'bargain' or simply when they get there. There's no hot dog in the world with what Disney charges. In a time of such economic difficulties (DEPRESSION) you'd think a wiser move might be to sell hot dogs for something rational like $2-3 a pop. ~Pass the Pixie Dust~
