Originally Posted By Hista98 they arent shutting it down but it might as well be with how much stuff will be off limits once WoC starts each night.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Hista98, Take a breath dude! I dont really get all the bending out of shape? Glow Fest isnt JUST for the WOC crowd, its suppose to be for everyone, remember. Its a Nightastic event, its raising the stakes for the park and it seems like it will be something fun and different. Most of the time, we are complaining Disney isnt doing ENOUGH! Now you're complaining they are doing too much?? Everything in HPB will still be open while this is going on, so I dont get the issue? Alladin will be doing shows until 9 pm there as well for people who cant see WOC. And the FP line, its been said, plan for the worst. If its not needed in a few weeks, months, they will simply stop it or scale it back to one show. And if its bigger than planned, then a third show will be added. Again, better safe than sorry, right? The ONLY thing I can see anyone getting upset about is the PP stuff closing early, which is why Glow Fest stuff is there. And as long as you are in line for one of the attractions by 8 p.m. you can do it. Its only two hours and there are rumors TSMM may stay open anyway. So the hand wringing is just a little too much. Give it a few weeks before you deem WOC a failure and Disney overplanned for nothing.
Originally Posted By karlg First, there is not such thing as "fair." Any system will favor one kind of guest over another. A "first come first serve" system would mean that locals that can afford to camp out all day (or for say 4 to 6 hours) would keep out of town visitors from seeing the show. The FP system in this case lets people that have gone to the expense of flying in and staying in a hotel not have to dedicate most of a day to seeing a half hour show when they can only afford to be at the parks for a few days. The system in this case seems to favor people that are going to be at the park all day which is probably more characteristic of the out of town visitor. With DL and DCA less than a 5 minute walk apart and I would guess over 95% of all visitors to either park have park hopping (multi-day passes or AP) it is kind of silly to talk in terms of DCA's historic attendance figures. I think most people treat DCA as another "land" of DL. A new show, if it is considered good, will be mobbed just the same whether it is at DCA or DL. As someone that is flying out to DL, I'm very glad they are doing the FP. I probably would not be coming out this year if not for WoC and might cancel the trip if I found out that there was no way to see the show without camping out for 6 hours.
Originally Posted By LuLu I just have to weigh in as saying I *loathe* the way F! crowds are handled. The best spots are snagged 3-4 hours ahead of time by people who have nothing better to do than sit and wait for the show. I happen to be an APer but I don't get to the park often enough to waste that kind of time. I'd much rather pay a premium and be assured a reasonable spot to see, with little waiting.
Originally Posted By cheesybaby As for Hista's original point, it will be interesting. People said TOT would "transform the park" in 2004 and there would be lines out to the sun icon. Discussion boards in a frenzy for months. What actually happened? Good ridership, incremental increase in park attendance, park still dead by nightfall. People said TSMM would bring in huge crowds in 2008. Discussion boards in a frenzy for months. What actually happened? Good ridership, incremental increase in park attendance, park still dead by nightfall. Now they say WOC will transform the park in 2010, with 8,000-10,000 people still in the park at 9PM to watch 2 shows (maybe 3) per night. Discussion boards in a frenzy for months. What will actually happen? It could go either way really.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I don't want it to fail." Well then why do you keep suggesting that it's being over-hyped and that none of this preparation is unnecessary? Maybe you don't want it to fail, but you don't seem to be championing it either.
Originally Posted By cheesybaby <<why do you keep suggesting that it's being over-hyped and that none of this preparation is unnecessary? Maybe you don't want it to fail, but you don't seem to be championing it either.>> Jeez, because he is curious. It is possible to ask a sincere question without having a bias toward one of the answers, you know. Have you seen that new movie? Is it any good? (asks someone else) Have you seen it? How about you, have you seen it? WHY?! Why do you keep asking people that?! Maybe you don't want it to fail, but you sure aren't championing it either!
Originally Posted By tashajilek "People said TSMM would bring in huge crowds in 2008. Discussion boards in a frenzy for months. What actually happened? Good ridership, incremental increase in park attendance, park still dead by nightfall." Well thats because DCA always shuts down 2 hours earlier the DL. Whenever i Usually do dca first then DL for the rest of the night b/c it's open later. Now with WOC it has to be slightly busier.
Originally Posted By socalkdg <<<<Jeez, because he is curious. It is possible to ask a sincere question without having a bias toward one of the answers, you know.>>>>> Except its the same thing, posted on three or four different threads. Starts to get a little "sky is falling". I like the way they are handling WOC. Its gives me 4 choices. 1 - FP 2 - Spend $15 on Picnic 3 - Spend $40 on nice dinner 4 - Watch from a lesser spot Choices. Love it.
Originally Posted By tashajilek Choice #2 is pretty cheap considering you are guaranteed a spot. If you do purcase a meal do you get a better spot like with fantasmic?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Supposedly the $40 meals get you "preferred viewing." We should know next week exactly where that is.
Originally Posted By tashajilek I would pay the $40 rather then lining up early and maybe not even getting a showpass. When you are at a disney park whats $40 right?
Originally Posted By Moon Waffle With the internet as a medium, and the huge fan base Disney has, EVERYTHING Disney related is overhyped.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Jeez, because he is curious. It is possible to ask a sincere question without having a bias toward one of the answers, you know." Maybe I'm curious as to why he's so "curious". It just seems odd that someone who works at DL would be so adamant about making a point to say that WOC is being over-hyped here.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "making a point to say that WOC is being over-hyped here." I dont really think WOC is getting over hyped. It takes years for something new to come to the parks. So when the time comes most people are excited and they should be!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Strangely, I think the fans (i.e. people like us on sites like this) are hyping it more than Disney is. They've only really kicked it in to high gear fairly recently, I think. And there have been no nationwide ad buys AFAIK (unlike what Uni is doing for HP, for instance); I know I haven't seen any in NY, while I still see the usual WDW ads.
Originally Posted By SuperDry Do they *ever* do nationwide buys for DL-specific stuff? I wasn't aware that they did. I know they do for WDW but that's a destination resort for enough people in enough of the country for nationwide to make sense. They are already running commercials on TV in SoCal for WoC.
Originally Posted By tashajilek Here in Canada we get DL and WDW commercials, i have even seen universal,knotts,six flags etc. "Strangely, I think the fans (i.e. people like us on sites like this) are hyping it more than Disney is." Your right, and most visitors probably wont even know its new and hasnt been there already. I think its good that Fans are excited and give us all something to talk about in our everyday boring lives LOL.
