Is "World Events" really a TOUGH place on LP??

Originally Posted By Mr X

There's an age old wisdom that teaches us to "never discuss religion or politics".

Here on LP they actually CREATED a place for us to discuss these things.

Smart, huh!?

Personally, I don't find the debates on WE to be "tough" or "harsh", as I go to much more hardcore websites than LaughingPlace and have seen people treat each other like utter garbage! However, the LP debates just get old and tired to me. Everyone holds their own little entrenched opinion, and you can practically write the post by reading who the auther is. That's why I got a little sick of writing. I'd write something that I thought was a bit different, thought provoking or whatever, and I'd ask for feedback from my "opponents" (I notice that WD and Tom Sawyer also attempt the same thing, with similar results). What I got back was just the same repeated drivel, followed by comments about why I was such a moron along with all the "liberals" and why that makes me so very wrong (I don't even consider myself "liberal" in many ways, including supporting the government welfare state and abortion, but try to tell THESE guys and they'll just regurgitate what an awful "liberal" I am).

So anyway, I got pretty sick of it.

 

Originally Posted By Dabob2

Things get a little heated here sometimes, but (is it just me?) they actually seem MILD somehow compared to Expansion circa 2001-2003, and even some lately.

Maybe they're about the same, but Expansion just seemed worse because, after all, on WE we sometimes get personal, but then again we're sometimes talking about sex or religion - topics that are inherently personal. On Expansion we were talking about a THEME PARK, so it seemed a little ridiculous to see people get so huffy when another poster disagreed with them on the merits of DCA or whether this TOT was better than that TOT, or whatever.

 

Originally Posted By WorldDisney

^^^I agree with that TOTALLY Dabob2. It's true, EVERYONE gets emotional over the issues we discuss in WE. It doesn't matter if you are American, Black, Conservative, a Woman or whatever. These are discussions about issues in our society and how much they can affect an individual, a community, nation and even the world.

But, when people get SUPER emotional over how much we love/hate a theme park (no matter if it's our passion or not), it looks a little pathetic . I'm not throwing stones from a glass house here, I ALWAYS argue full-blown on these boards, but I don't think I have ever gotten 'emotional' in those sections like I do here. Theme parks are a hobby (like LP USE to be before it became a full-blown obssession ). War and politics are unfortunately a way of life.

 

Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder

"^^^I agree with that TOTALLY Dabob2. It's true, EVERYONE gets emotional over the issues we discuss in WE. It doesn't matter if you are American, Black, Conservative, a Woman or whatever. These are discussions about issues in our society and how much they can affect an individual, a community, nation and even the world.

But, when people get SUPER emotional over how much we love/hate a theme park (no matter if it's our passion or not), it looks a little pathetic . I'm not throwing stones from a glass house here, I ALWAYS argue full-blown on these boards, but I don't think I have ever gotten 'emotional' in those sections like I do here. Theme parks are a hobby (like LP USE to be before it became a full-blown obssession ). War and politics are unfortunately a way of life."

With this, you have a point.

 

Originally Posted By MissCandice

I am a bit leery of this section. I am a full-on liberal which seems to be the minority on LP.
I mostly come to LP to have fun and being attacked for my views is not a lot of fun so I don't post a lot in World Events.

 

Originally Posted By TikiDude

<-- Politely escorts MissCandice out of WE and buys her a fruit smoothie at the Tiki Room.

 

Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy

Yes, it's tough! People have opinions here! About stuff in life! lol

Really though, I sparin'ly visit this section...I *work* in "World Events", so why do I wanna spend my free time in 'em?

I'm also the type of person who hates to think of tickin' people off or gettin' into arguments; so it was actually a "step" fer me to post my 1st thread here (the Oprah/jury duty one)---I took a chance at people really disagreein' with me or even perhaps insultin' me or thinkin' I was stupid (just cause I'd always heard WE is the "yeep!" board of LP, lol).

And it wasn't that bad, but I don't think I'll start any more topics here. I just don't do sensitive subjects, and come here to *laugh*---not to argue/discuss politics/worldly things. I know others like it, that's fine, it just ain't *my* cup o' tea.

And now I'm a little anxious that I said all this right. *See?* This is an un-me part of LP. lol

 

Originally Posted By Inspector 57

^^^
What a maroon.

 

Originally Posted By gadzuux

What I discovering from this thread though, is that some of the 'pillars' of the LP community are quiely surfing through the WE threads.

This is good. For one, they at least are aware of the WE denizens and where we stack up. Secondly, it affirms what I've always secretly suspected - that the traffic through here is much larger than the handful of us who post regularly.

I would heartily encourage those of you who visit the room but are hesitant to post to give it a whirl - if you feel like responses to to harsh, say so. The "locals" here on WE tend to bash each other more than the "newbies".

Especially women. We don't always know the gender of the posters, but most of the regulars here seem to be men. Dyed in the wool lib that I am - I value diversity, and believe that womens' perspectives are important to the mix - after all, you do make up the majority of the human race! I also harbor a hunch that many women's views tend to more closely mirror my own - as a generality they tend to be less militaristic and more flexible in issues of religion and sex. On the other hand, they tend to place a greater priority on issues of safety and security, resulting in their opinions supporting both sides of the spectrum. Join us in our often lively discussions.

 

Originally Posted By LadyKluck

I agree completely with posts 18 & 19.

Also, I would like to add that I personally don't go to the WE section because I come to LP to have fun and discuss things to cheer me up. I have to listen to enough bickering and arguing at work and that is the last thing I want to deal with when I come here too.




Oh, and friendofdd, I'll take blue raspberry!

 

Originally Posted By pecos bill

I used to post here quite a bit, but havent done so in months. This is partly due to an intensity in my work schedule, but mostly because of the surly and downright mean dialogue that is inevitable when discussing politics, especially when talking about the man who is currently posing as president of our country!

 

Originally Posted By TikiDude

Haven't seen you in a while pecos_bill!

I know what you mean. Rather than a discussion with an exchange of online resources, WE sometimes becomes nothing more than a rah-rah fest for those that affiliate themselves more to parties than to issues.

 

Originally Posted By WorldDisney

TikiDude,

Haven't seen YOU in awhile either . Welcome back!!! There's not much of a tiki without you dude ;D.

 

Originally Posted By TikiDude

Aye! An' back w' a Scottish burr at that! Many thanks, laddie!

 

Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy

LOL!

 

Originally Posted By Dabob2

<Especially women. We don't always know the gender of the posters, but most of the regulars here seem to be men.>

Interesting - I remember noting a couple of years back that most of the posters (maybe better than 3/4 at that point) in Expansion seemed to be men, and wondering if it was maybe that women didn't like the bashing and getting personal and contentiousness, especially over a theme park. Maybe we set up a divisive vibe or a "boy's club" feel that some women dislike?

I'd like to see more women posting here as well.

 

Originally Posted By RoadTrip

Excuse the stereotyping, but by and large women don't argue (except with their husbands). lol

My experience is that they hate conflict and will go to great lengths to avoid it. When someone says something to my wife that I know she strongly disagrees with, she is far more likely to just ignore the comment than to dispute it.

If women ran the world, there probably wouldn't be any war.

;^)

 

Originally Posted By tiggertoo

<<If women ran the world, there probably wouldn't be any war.>>

Unless of course an adjacent country’s flag was prettier. ;-)

 

Originally Posted By tiggertoo

<<I'd write something that I thought was a bit different, thought provoking or whatever, and I'd ask for feedback from my "opponents" (I notice that WD and Tom Sawyer also attempt the same thing, with similar results).>>

Sorry, this isn’t that unique. Many of the views expressed here are a virtual pot pourri and many of us have attempted to bring up what we thought were “reasonable†only to be blown off or ignored. I have many such threads and/or posts. I guess arguing archetypes is much easier or fun than trying to find an equilibrium between two polarized ideals.


<<I am a bit leery of this section. I am a full-on liberal which seems to be the minority on LP.>>

LOL! I sincerely doubt it Candice. You’d feel right at home here.

 

Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

I think that any regular reader will see that, for the most part, there has developed a sort of comraderie among some posters on opposite, or differing, ends of the spectrum. The same thing developed during the Great DCA Wars of 2001-02, when the expansion threads were at their highest temperature.

What is funny about that is that in some cases, my political views line up almost exactly with people I argued most with about DCA. In other cases, there are some people who I don't see eye-to-eye with on any subject, it seems! Most of them, though, I'd love to share a drink with, because I enjoy the mental swordfight and the fact that they do challenge me to think about, and rethink about, my own opinions in a new light.

That's what's suppossed to happen: I conceded a point here or there, they concede a point here or there. We stand fast on some other positions, and agree to disagree.

The one big lesson I've learned in World Events is to not get my own identity too wrapped up with a politician or cause, as new information is always coming in. You just never know when the other side might turn out to be right. The other thing is that it is okay to "flip flop" now and then. Sometimes flip-flopping is a weak-kneed, grandstanding maneuver. But not always. Sometimes it means that a person is actively thinking things through based on new input and reaching a new conclusion.

In any case, I enjoy this section most when ideas are being presented in a way that isn't disrespectful or intentionally confrontational.