Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom << Maybe Eisner's "DLs existsnace is to bring movies to life" worked???>> Do you mean all those straight to video releases?
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<We would love examples.....>> I did already. But I'll help you out: The Disneyland Story Dateline Disneyland Disneyland After Dark Disneyland Tenth Anniversary Show Disneyland 59 Disneyland Goes to the World's Fair Disneyland Around the Seasons Golden Horseshoe Revue. And just about every movie and character the company ever produced.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I have no problem with toon tie-ins to rides. Obviously Walt's toons were universially popular. We got enough Academy Awards for them. Walt didn't have movie tie-ins for every ride or attraction in the parks. But, certainly the creative minds at Disney saw an opportunity to capitalize on promoting Disney's own "wares" if you will. It is not as if Walt filled the parkinglots with WWII aircraft to show off the characters painted on the planes. The "toon" tie-ins dove tailed with the rides and attractions seamlessly. Now, the "toon" tie-ins seem to be haphazard in some cases. I'm still trying to decide if Stitch is suppose to be about stitch or chili dog smells and sneezes. I could see someone saying the "toon" tie-ins worked great in the 50s and 60s. But, for some odd reason Disneys current batch of imagineers can't seem to get it right. Also sometimes too much is just overkill. When you see Disney's Princess on stuff in Home Depot and Lowe's then go grocery shopping and see Disney's Princesses on everything from breakfast cereal to tissue paper it is overkill and cheapens the overall product.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I really wonder how some Disney "fans" got brainwashed into thinking everything outside of Fantasyland from 1955-1995 was ALSO "based on movies and synergy". Maybe Eisner's "DLs existsnace is to bring movies to life" worked???<<< It existed to bring stories to life not able to be produced in the movies. Far reach.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Another attraction inspired by a non-Disney film, the Jungle Cruise,inspired by the African Queen
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I'm sure there were many things that inspired Walt to build the Jungle Cruise. Including Walt's love for boats in general. Do I think that one of those things was the movie the African Queen? Yes, I do. However there were a lot of other influences also. I just think it might be disingenuous to say it was only the movie the Africa Queen.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Another attraction inspired by a non-Disney film, the Jungle Cruise,inspired by the African Queen>> Huge difference between "inspired by" and the ride being called Jungle Cruise: The African Queen Experience. Have you ever seen the African Queen? The two have almost no similarities aside from a tramp steamer and one or two shots of stock footage animals in the film. It's not overtly obvious that the Imagineers and Walt got inspired by AQ(not to mention Walt's trip to South America). There's a difference between being inspired by a franchise and beating the guests over the head with synergy.
Originally Posted By danyoung The other big inspiration for the JC was the documentary The African Lion.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom And see I would have thought that Theodore Roosevelt's famous Amazon expedition would have been part of the inspiration for Jungle Cruise. Rio Teodoro, a river flowing into the Amazon was named after Roosevelt, which I'm sure Walt was aware of. To suggest that the Jungle Cruise was inspired on a popular movie is what I believe to be a bit presumptuous.
Originally Posted By Manfried Aren't they making a movie based on "The Jungle Cruise?" Another example of reverse synergy. I hope Eddie Murphy is not in it.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Okay I'll give you guys that the African Queen was one of the inspirations for JC. My only point is that Disney has always used synergy from day one. There's no need to act as if this is something new.
Originally Posted By Manfried Opening day Imagineers said "The African Queen" was an inspiration for the ride's design.
Originally Posted By leobloom It's not really synergy if the Jungle Cruise wasn't designed with the intention of selling African Queen merchandise.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""The Disneyland Story Dateline Disneyland Disneyland After Dark Disneyland Tenth Anniversary Show Disneyland 59 Disneyland Goes to the World's Fair Disneyland Around the Seasons Golden Horseshoe Revue."" Ummmmmmmmmmmm, those are television specials by Walt to promote the park when the park didn't rely on Intellectual Tradmark Properties.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""And just about every movie and character the company ever produced."" So there's Davy Crockett THE RIDE? 101 Dalmations THE RIDE? Sword in the Stone THE RIDE? Black Cauldron THE RIDE? Intresting.......
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""To suggest that the Jungle Cruise was inspired on a popular movie is what I believe to be a bit presumptuous."" Unfortunaltly, Burbank and WDI ITSELF has created this myth to justify the "tooning" and "Piratizing" and "fans" have lapped it up.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom HMButler79, in the movie the African Queen they were not going up the Congo River, or the Nile for that matter. I don't care what the Imagineers were saying. I'm sure it was several things that inspired the Jungle Cruise. Perhaps the boats were inspired by the boat in the African Queen but in terms of the scenery and story, it is definately based on multiple subject matters.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<So there's Davy Crockett THE RIDE?>> DL, WDW and DLP had the Davy Crockett's Explorer Canoes. Also the Mike Fink Keel Boats at the MK and the Fink 169 boats at DL, were based on a character from the Davy Crockett TV series.
