Originally Posted By SuperDry The "artist's conception" of the Birds-Eye view of the new FL says "Fall 2012" underneath it. Can they really have this project substantially completed by then? If so, that would be great, as projects like this seem to traditionally take a lot longer.
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct The official article says it will open in phases starting in 2012 (and thank you for all your TDR park-hopping insight. made a lot of sense)
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself The first area to open is scheduled to be the Great Goofini and new train station in the second quarter of fiscal 2012. That would be Jan-March next year. The last bit is the Mine Ride, opening in the first or second quarter of fiscal 2014. That would be late 2013/early 2014.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>And p.s. .... When did "Discussion Kingdom is a different type of Disney message board" show up!?!?<<< We founded ourselves in June.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>And p.s. .... When did "Discussion Kingdom is a different type of Disney message board" show up!?!?<<< We founded ourselves in June.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>The first area to open is scheduled to be the Great Goofini and new train station in the second quarter of fiscal 2012. That would be Jan-March next year. The last bit is the Mine Ride, opening in the first or second quarter of fiscal 2014. That would be late 2013/early 2014.<<< Yeah, and to walk to all these beautiful areas, you'll have to pass walls, mounds of dirt... Great planning, WDW! LOL.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "The charm of this place looks like I might get a taste of some very needed charm in Fantasyland. The wooded area and water will add so much mood and story." Agreed.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: If the Seven Dwarves Mine Train is done well I can forgive them for taking away Snow White's Scary Adventures--which was, by the way, upgraded in a major way back in the mid-90's. It is the only Snow White dark ride that tells the story in a chronological way--MUCH better that California's Disneyland does. So I don't know how anybody could think the West coast version is better. We just rode that one a month ago and couldn't wait to experience the one in Florida again because it's so much better.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> It is the only Snow White dark ride that tells the story in a chronological way--MUCH better that California's Disneyland does. So I don't know how anybody could think the West coast version is better. << The effects appear to be better at DL's. WDW's may have been updated in the 90's, but boy has the luster worn off since then. Really couldn't care less that the story is told in chronological order, either. I've always found the Fantasyland dark rides work best when they attempt to recreate the atmosphere of the movie (Pan, Pooh, Mr. Toad) and not strictly retell the story (Pinnochio, Snow White, and Little Mermaid, I fear).
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>ORWEN: If the Seven Dwarves Mine Train is done well I can forgive them for taking away Snow White's Scary Adventures--which was, by the way, upgraded in a major way back in the mid-90's. It is the only Snow White dark ride that tells the story in a chronological way--MUCH better that California's Disneyland does. So I don't know how anybody could think the West coast version is better. We just rode that one a month ago and couldn't wait to experience the one in Florida again because it's so much better.<<< At least that one is taken care of...
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct 104 EPCOT Explorer Tue 1/18/2011 2:36p >>>And p.s. .... When did "Discussion Kingdom is a different type of Disney message board" show up!?!?<<< We founded ourselves in June. Alrighty then .... I will have to join and visit your site. there is room enough for all discussion boards. I am off to Broadwayworld.com now ...
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct And what is this "castle projection show" I see on Twiiter!! They mapped the castle so they could make 3-D projections? spimning torrents? Ect? Huh? Is this world of color on a castle!? do tell
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Alrighty then .... I will have to join and visit your site. there is room enough for all discussion boards. I am off to Broadwayworld.com now ...<<< Cool stuff! Happy to have you aboard.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Well, it DOES matter to me when the dark rides tell stories in proper chronological order. It's such a big plus when they do that. Otherwise you have nothing more than a confusing mish mash of scenes that make no sense. Dark rides should tell a good story to help compliment the movies they're based on.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Dark rides should tell a good story to help compliment the movies they're based on. << I disagree. The most popular FL dark rides didn't rely on retelling their movie stories. Just look at Pan--it gives you the atmosphere of the film, but isn't bogged down by following the movie's story too closely.
Originally Posted By Manfried I agree with Post 115. The worst dark rides try to do a literal telling of a movie. Probably why Snow White has never been a great dark ride at WDW or DL. And definitely why Pinocchio does not work at DL.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 While I'm looking forward to the Mine Train ride, I have to say that I'm very disappointed to see that the only thing they could come up with to replace the Fairies area is a stupid circus! Those cheap looking circus tents are the tackiest thing in the Toontown Fair area, and it looks like they're staying. Yuck! With that huge space back there, why didn't they add another dark ride on the other side of Mermaid?
Originally Posted By avimagine ^^ Budget? Would make shareholders balk? Why rip out a dark ride for a m&g? Even if it isn't the best dark ride. It's a Ride...
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I don't think they realize yet that they need to compete with Universal. This is the first-time that has ever really happened. The other team has stepped up its game greatly, while the Mousehas decided to totally Walmart its product, rest on its laurels and trust that social media will fill all its rooms and timeshares with guests who don't any better. They do (finally) ... and they won't. UNI is actually dictating the cost of admission in O-Town for the first time. Recently, while in Asia, I talked with some folks who had been to Uni's new Singapore park and enjoyed it a lot. But they really wanted to come to FLA to 'see the park with Harry Potter'. (these people also passed on going to HKDL as part of a family vacation). Not trying to be a downer at all, just realistic. It's so sad that Disney feels 'we have a different clientele and our guests expect less from us ... and we're only too happy to deliver ... have you seen our 1972-era eletrical parade or our new 6:20 Studios parade now showing with half the entertainers?' Talking to a friend earlier today, there was one positive we could both agree on with this underwhelming and expected news and that is in three years the MK is going to look much nicer ... well, at least one land will. ~Hi-Ho Silver~
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Those cheap looking circus tents are the tackiest thing in the Toontown Fair area, and it looks like they're staying." Anyone know what's going in those tents? "I don't think they realize yet that they need to compete with Universal." They've been competing with Universal since it fist opened back in 1988. The only thing that has changed recently is the addition of Harry Potter, and like anything, it has a limited shelf life. Unless Universal can continue churning out more attractions at that level, which I seriously doubt it will, it's a bit premature to suggest that the marketplace in Orlando is shifting in Universal's favor over the long term.
