Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Make that September 11 was planned and carried out by terrorists who happened to be Muslim and you'd have it right.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Really, if I were Muslim, I'd be rather tired of feeling like I should have to defend my religious faith based on the actions of nuts. How many times must people say "I don't condone, support or in any way approve of the acts of 9/11?" Most have been saying it again and again and again for over 9 years know. And some people just won't believe it anyway, while others in the media keep on whipping up the suspicion and xenophobia. It's like we learned after Pearl Harbor that it's stupid to round people up and put them in camps because they are of the same race as those who attacked. But now, all these years later, the xenophobia that was at the heart of all that is as strong as ever in some quarters. It's really quite sad.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 I just got some new socks.....from Jordan.I think they want to attack my toes !
Originally Posted By DAR <<Really, if I were Muslim, I'd be rather tired of feeling like I should have to defend my religious faith based on the actions of nuts. How many times must people say "I don't condone, support or in any way approve of the acts of 9/11?" Most have been saying it again and again and again for over 9 years know. And some people just won't believe it anyway, while others in the media keep on whipping up the suspicion and xenophobia.>> Because it's not the leadership, I'm talking the top guys, that's speaking up against terrorism. They're sort of pussyfooting around it because frankly they're too scared. Like I said Benzair Bhutto paid for it. Believe me the younger generation that's attending these anti-terrorism camps one of them will be the leaders of the Muslim world and that's certainly encouraging.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt The US shares a lot of blame for what happened on 9/11. People hate us, and often for good reason. For people like O'Rielly to be so high and mighty in regards to Muslim terrorists is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. The United State's hands aren't clean either.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "Most all New Yorkers I talked to that week had no issues with the Mosque. I left NYC feeling that most of them just want to move on and get back to being the diverse City they've been for all these years." Exactly! We're over it already. There are so many other things to focus on here. I'm glad that your trip to NYC and ground zero showed how diverse the area really is. Good for the firefighter too, for calling out that woman. "The US shares a lot of blame for what happened on 9/11. People hate us, and often for good reason. For people like O'Rielly to be so high and mighty in regards to Muslim terrorists is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. The United State's hands aren't clean either." True. I'm not going to say we deserved it, because nobody deserves anything like that. However, it didn't happen in a vacuum. The terrorists didn't just hate us for no reason. We had our hands dirty. Unfortunately, that led to a pretty horrific terrorist attack. Anyway, not to go down that rabbit hole here...
Originally Posted By DAR "The Talk" premiered today on CBS. The public still needs to know the View is still out there. The walkout was staged. It was about as real as the WWE.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Good point. That tells you it wasn't staged, because O'Reilly doesn't like to apologize to anyone. He'd never eaten crow like that just to help the ratings of the View, a show with 3 out of 4 hosts he probably can't stand.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>"The Talk" premiered today on CBS. The public still needs to know the View is still out there.<< LOL! I'm pretty sure all 10 "View" viewers who accidentally tuned into "The Talk" will be back tomorrow.
Originally Posted By mele Did he apologize? Cos I saw him say they shouldn't have argued like that and then he went on to reiterate his opinions about the mosque (and that so many people argee with him), whine about not being able to criticise Muslims and then state that Muslims should do more to prove that they aren't inline with the extremist/terrorists. Did I miss the apology part?
Originally Posted By DAR You don't apologize when you right. That's the problem with the country we don't want to offend people so we have to have the pc police at all times. You know what everyone gets criticized, everyone gets made fun, suck it up.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>That's the problem with the country we don't want to offend people<< Gee, I always look at that as a strength.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 Bill, Whoopie, and the other fat chick should have just linked arms and kept walking out of the range all tv outlets.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Bill, Whoopie, and the other fat chick should have just linked arms and kept walking out of the range all tv outlets.<< I'd sign up for cable just to watch that happen. They can take Barbara with them, since I'm sure she had a hand in booking the guy in the first place.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "You don't apologize when you right." Whether his opinion was wrong or right, his behavior was tacky and boorish. He was deliberately trying to cause a ruckus. You don't go on someone's show and tell them to shut up so that they can "learn" something. "That's the problem with the country we don't want to offend people so we have to have the pc police at all times." Maybe so, but I think Bill O'Reilly could use a little lesson on manners.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I just watched the aftermath of the blow up on ABC.com and Bill did indeed apologize for his broad depiction of Muslims as extremists.
Originally Posted By DAR You know it's funny when Rosie O'Donnell was on spouting about how Christianity is evil or our soldiers are evil, Joy Behar never walked off the set. How about when Whoopi defended a child rapist in Roman Polanski, Joy didn't budge. Could it be she's a hypocrite.....
Originally Posted By ecdc >>How about when Whoopi defended a child rapist in Roman Polanski, Joy didn't budge. Could it be she's a hypocrite.....<< No, she wasn't being treated like she's a child by Whoopi, like she was by O'Reilly, no matter how she may feel about Roman Polanski. That's the issue, not what he said, but the tone. The View, however one may feel about it, has had a variety of guests and some have said controversial things over the years. They haven't walked out before, not because they have shifting values, but because those people at least were respectful enough to not shout at them.
