Originally Posted By TheMadHatter Oh... the didn't do any cuts in "The Rescuers... The "naked woman" was super-imposed in an open window. They just removed the picture. Probably only took them all of 5 minutes to do, but a small fortune to recall the "tainted" videos. - tMH
Originally Posted By DisneyDude81 i dont think they cut it cause then the film wouldnt be consistant on that scene and my VHS play just fine without any cuts or any animation cuts or scene cuts or anyother defect. i just think they removed it like you said digi hehe
Originally Posted By MPeriolat I do not understand why Disney does not trust us to make the decisions for ourselves as to what is appropriate and what is not. I love the claim that Song of the South is racist. Uh, folks, no it's not. It has a black character in it who WAS a slave. That's not racisim, that's history. Want racisim, rent Birth of a Nation. The cutting the girl jumping from the shower to the towel to the clothes in Make Mine Music. OK, explain to me why this is cut and yet, we have botu Ariel and Esmeralda AND Jessica Rabbit! Hell, I heard my sister discussing POCAHONTAS as a sex symbol lo many moons ago! And these are just the ANIMATED films! Let's not forget the cuts made to the Disneyland USA DVD. The DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS AT HOME reeks of Disney thinking the lot of us of uneducated bumpkins. Disney is great at storytelling, but they're muddling their messages with this PC junk. Knock it off, for all of our sakes and let us enjoy the movies as they were meant to be.
Originally Posted By spoonfullofsugar me and my brother were watching an episode of boy meets world yesturday(it was Sunday...nothin else on)and i noticed they cut a part out of this episode when it aired on Disney Channel. Cory and Topanga are having their first fight, and eric finds a lucky penny as a side story. eric is blessed with good luck, and in the un edited version, alot of foot ball players are playing pool and he says something about the captain being gay and they all playfully admit to being gay. now im against gays, but it was funnier when they left that in, it made the scene make no sense without that little segment. maybe they were afraid they'd afend the gay community? oh waa waa waa..........
Originally Posted By Tannerman One thing Jim did not mention regarding "editing" is the recent trend by Disney to put out films in pan-and-scan vs. widescreen when moving to DVD. If you want to talk about editing, you lose a large part of the original intent when that is done. Also, regarding the idea of charging more for the "original" release, Universal is ruffling a lot of feathers regarding their DVD release of ET. While the film was edited for the recent release, the original version will be available... but only in a $70 box set version. If you want the politically correct version, it's cheap. If you want the version before they mucked it all up, you have to pay big bucks. I don't know if I'd feel good about paying that much for a movie.
Originally Posted By electra <<The cutting the girl jumping from the shower to the towel to the clothes in Make Mine Music.>> WHAT! I can't believe they cut that out! Why! Now I'm glad i didnt buy the dvd!
Originally Posted By mattmclean Maybe if Disney would just release the rights to another company... then they could release it Song of the South. Maybe digitally remove all of the Disney monikers... but everyone would still know it was Disney. Birth of a Nation is a very true representation of the time... and it is very, very racist by todays standards.. but you can obtain that movie (mostly because it is an open copyright now, I think... just like all those Popeye cartoons). Nobody has raised one bit of fuss over that movie. Strange that Disney so far hasn't released the movie here. Despite the overwhelming demand for it.
Originally Posted By JeffG >> "Birth of a Nation is a very true representation of the time... and it is very, very racist by todays standards.. but you can obtain that movie (mostly because it is an open copyright now, I think... just like all those Popeye cartoons). Nobody has raised one bit of fuss over that movie." << "Birth of a Nation" has generated >huge< controversy over the years, including during its original release. In fact, D.W. Griffith made "Intolerance" mainly as an attempt to respond to that controversy. I do think that the circumstances with "Birth of a Nation" are pretty different than the situation with "Song of the South". Today, "Birth of a Nation" simply isn't going to attract much attention beyond film scholars and historians. Nobody is ever going to put out a release of this film that is going to attract widespread, mainstream attention. It also is unquestionably a film that was aimed at adults. "Song of the South" is still a pretty prominent family film. The combination of the film's well-known elements (including a couple extremely familiar songs) and the Disney name would make it very hard to release the film without attracting quite a bit of attention. -Jeff
Originally Posted By ChipandDale Bravo Jim, I think you hit the nail on the head here. I grew up watching not only Disney cartoons, but Warner Brothers as well and my parents did a pretty good job of explaining make believe to us. We knew we could not go jump off a cliff. The same goes with guns, we knew it was a satire on the old story and was done in a humous way. We grew up with guns and saw what they could do. People seem to forget that we have a history and have changed, we have learned from our mistakes, hopefully, that what the politely correct people forget. I used to work for View-Master and those people wanted to take away Donald Duck's temper because it was too violent, now,now. Somehow I think we are trying to strain out the gnat and swallow the camel. Hopefully reason will prevail.
Originally Posted By u k fan I have a copy of a Sing Along Songs video that includes Pecos Bill and the cigarette is left in but the Native Americans are cut out. I also have a Sing Along Songs video for DLP where Pecos Bill is included (played by Goofy) and the smoking is gone but the Indians are in. Finally, on my copy of Melody Time the smoking is out and the Indians are in. I just wonder why there seems to be confusion between these about what should be edited. I do agree with the cut on the DLP video though, who really wants to see Goofy light up?!!!
Originally Posted By treelo Disney's violence in movies today is much more realistic and impactful than the cartoony gunfights of old. And can I mention the old woman who smokes like a chimney in "Atlantis?" Jim talks about the justification of removing the "Fantasia" segment, and yet Willy the Whale sings "Shortnin' Bread" to a group of sea lions who look like they're in blackface (they have white/tan flippers). One is offensive and the other is not? These edits are asinine. I think Disney feels it must save face, and prove they're a wholesome industry; that they "care" about the nation's children. But they end up looking like hypocrites. The films should be released in their original format, and Disney should just shut up. With all of the lawsuits they deal with each day, do they really think that Pecos Bill's tobacco habit is really going to substantially increase their legal fees?And there is no reason why anyone should have to pay a higher price for an unedited film. The option should not be an option. Personally, I'd be happier if they had never released their classics to the home market, and continued to re-release the films in theatres. There's that thin line again between intergity as good business, and the quick cheap buck.
Originally Posted By DisneyDude81 i agree with you treelo even tho i like having the movies at home, but is also not fair to pay high prices for this DVD that have trashy extras and get a edited cartoon cause of a dumb excuse and then they make a new movie with the same thing they edited from one of there cartoons is kinda stupid and there hypocrites like you say oh well! i wish they would read this.
