Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<Gee, that argument might actually work - on someone who didn't actually live through the last 15 years.>> <The argument would work on anyone who is willing to actually look at the facts.> Only if one defines "the facts" as "Douglas' opinion." Which DD so often does.
Originally Posted By cmpaley >><I might add that with an obvious exception, I haven't seen anyone here presenting the Bush Administration, or George Bush, as perfect.> Really? Who is the obvious exception? I don't believe there is a person here who hasn't disagree with some of the Bush administration policies, or admit they've made some mistakes<< I'm guessing your login to LP has an ignore feature that the rest of us doesn't and you have Beaumandy in your listed therein?
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>People like to be led, and they don't like to think.<< This rather predictable statement is invariably directed against those who feel no rancor against conservative governments. It goes hand in hand with the notion that one school of thought (liberal/progressive/humanist or whatever they want to call it) is somehow more intellectual than another (conservative/backward/neocon or whatever they want to call it). The truth is, there are "smart" people and "dumb" people at both ends of the spectrum. For every Dittohead there is a member of Cindy Sheehan's army of lapdogs. For every right wing blogger there's a left wing chat board. For every one who thinks that Bill O'Reilly is a journalist, there's another who believes that Michael Moore creates documentaries. "Not thinking" is not an exclusive province.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I'm guessing your login to LP has an ignore feature that the rest of us doesn't and you have Beaumandy in your listed therein?> Beaumandy has criticized President Bush here. Most recently on immigration. I believe he also said we should have leveled Fallujah, or something similar.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>For every Dittohead there is a member of Cindy Sheehan's army of lapdogs. For every right wing blogger there's a left wing chat board. For every one who thinks that Bill O'Reilly is a journalist, there's another who believes that Michael Moore creates documentaries.<< The big question is, how do we set all those people adrift somewhere so the majority of America can live in happiness? ; )
Originally Posted By DlandDug 2ny, America is Andy's room. Remember the bickering toys of Toy Story? They know they live in a safe place where all are valued. So they spend their time bickering and competing for Andy's affection. The toys in Sid's room, on the other hand, silently work together. Sid's toys lead lives of quiet desperation, trying to avoid their cruel master. Let's not turn America into Sid's room!
Originally Posted By jonvn "I guess we can add Jon to those who won't look at the facts." Present facts, and they'll be looked at.
Originally Posted By jonvn Actually, I don't think a bigot who threatens violence to other posters here is really much welcomed by anyone of any political stripe.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Actually, I don't think a bigot who threatens violence to other posters here is really much welcomed by anyone of any political stripe.>> Yet a guy who says someones kids should have been aborted gets a pass from the mob on here.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Nope, it was said about my kids more than once by Shooba. Yet, he gets a total pass from every liberal on here. Says a lot.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF You get a total pass on a LOT of things, so I wouldn't whine. People -- and I can think of one in particular from the eastern part of the U.S. -- have gotten banned for less. Myself, I would never tell a parent that his/her kid should have been aborted. However, I will strongly urge one not to reproduce. So, please do us all a favor and don't have any more munchkins.
Originally Posted By Bob Benchley "Nope, it was said about my kids more than once by Shooba. Yet, he gets a total pass from every liberal on here. Says a lot" What it says is a lot about you. You've built up such enmity here that when people say such things about you or your children, no one feels compelled to respond or say anything. People can take only so many "moonbat", "loser lib", "idiot", "moron" comments and much worse things you've thrown around here before they could not care less what is said to you. Seriously, think about it.
Originally Posted By jonvn The fact that he basically made a threat towards another poster here should be enough for anyone. "You don't want to meet me."
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Originally Posted By DlandDug >>It's very telling that no one is rushing to his defense, and in fact agree...<< Not defending certainly doesn't mean automatic approval. I fail to understand how anyone can deplore the bad manners of another while engaging in them themself.
Originally Posted By jonvn "I'm not even convinced he is married." I rather doubt he's employed, myself. "Not defending certainly doesn't mean automatic approval." I kind of agree. I see no reason to defend him, and understand that his behavior causes some people to say harsh things to him, and it's not undeserved, but I don't think I would say his kids (if they even exist) should have been aborted. Perhaps him, but not his kids. Poor things.
