Kids being shaken down for money at RCCT

Originally Posted By YourPalEd

You see i just realized there is a problem in your solution to the woman problem, you have to buy a t-shirt.

I'm a skinflint.

 

Originally Posted By TexasTeaIII

I may have bought a t shirt that time but hey I got a free dinner later and free...... well you know what 2 nights after the first encounter.

Pretty good investment wouldn't you say.

What is a skinflint

 

Originally Posted By YourPalEd

a skinflint is a person who is wise with his or her money. Exactly like a cheapskate, except i believe from western times.

I probably am wrong, but i always thought a skinflint was someone so cheap they wouldn't give you a match.

I might be mispelling everything for that matter. Oh well, that's how these strange sayings are born in the first place i guess.

 

Originally Posted By fkurucz

>>I may have bought a t shirt that time but hey I got a free dinner later and free...... <<

Jeepers, you're a real gentleman, aren't you?

 

Originally Posted By TexasTeaIII

a gentleman.... I don't know about that but I tell you this, the most important movie I have ever seen was Jerry Maguire. Watching Jerry move in on the blonde chick who had a little one was magical. After that I knew that I just had to try it out and it works too.

 

Originally Posted By Admin

Please get this back on topic. Thank you.

 

Originally Posted By YourPalEd

It is a little odd how this topic went from, how we can protect defenseless children, to how to use those children to take advantage of their defenseless mothers.

Predatory values might seem to be a bit hypocritical in american culture, but still the whole point of a children's refuge is to keep it safe for everyone. Everyone is allowed to be a child, and predatory values are stopped in the customer.

One way of showing the sad sick path of where those predatory values take us was handled by walt disney.

Instead of flinching, he made the pirates of the carribean ride. He showed in that ride how when scalliwags are left to their own ends, why they don't even bother with decorum, they just get drunk and start chasing women in circles.

The problem with the women changing pirates during the reagan administration, was that they made the pirates seem nice, and not as dangerous as they really are.

During the bush administration Pirates has gone through another update. Now the truely dangerous pirates (in reality) are being presented as loveable, adorable personalities.

Sitting alone, but with the pile of gold, is shown as the final solution to a predatory life.
Isn't that the case?

 

Originally Posted By PirateJohn

What the heck do the Reagan administration or Bush administration have to do with this?

 

Originally Posted By PirateJohn

And I highly dispute your statement about "defenseless mothers," too. That, frankly, is an insult to both men and women.

 

Originally Posted By YourPalEd

Why...everything.

 

Originally Posted By YourPalEd

The safety of one's havens is equal to the balance of peace vs. barbaric tendacies withen the culture, and thus the individual.

I don't think the rides Walt Disney created could have ever been developed without america, and the leaders it allows.

 

Originally Posted By YourPalEd

It just seems so shallow. No interaction.

Buy a shirt. Go to a restaurant. Together. Apart. Seems like a souless existance to me. But, who am i to judge.

Maybe no one is innocent, maybe no one is a predator, but again, instead of being fun, it has become a job requirement. Which is why i will have nothing to do with such nonsense.

 

Originally Posted By TexasTeaIII

back on topic

I'm thinking 2 things about this
shakedown. The three 11 or 12 year olds might have had very dark intentions or playful intentions meaning "kids just being kids", I guess we won't know. The other thing here is even if the older ones were just having "kid fun" the 7 and 4 year olds might well have been very scared and intimidated. When I was 7 being confronted by a 12 year old was scary business so it's good that security jumped on this one.

 

Originally Posted By YourPalEd

Yes, i agree.

The original poster stated the disney security responded to the father's observation, after he talked to the first disney personel he found. The response was immediate, and overwhelming.

I am a coward myself, shhhh, don't tell anyone. I think that is one reason i hide out at amusement parks ignoring everything else.

It's either that, or i am enlightened, and realize everything else is meaningless, unless it pertains to maintaining the amusement parks, and the functioning of the rides. Hee hee ha.

I like not being intimidated by the guests at a disney park with great security.

Now, if we can just get the crowd control cast members, to stop being so intimidating in the hub during the fireworks show.

"Keep it moving. Stay on the right side. The right side. What are you crazy? Get back over that line, and don't you ever try to sneak around me again. Keep it moving. Keep it mo... I saw that! You, yeah you. Why i aughta..."

 

Originally Posted By PirateJohn

>>Keep it moving. Stay on the right side. The right side. What are you crazy? Get back over that line, and don't you ever try to sneak around me again. Keep it moving. Keep it mo... I saw that! You, yeah you. Why i aughta...

I've been one of those folks many times, so frankly I resent your statement. It is an extremely difficult and stressful job, nad also vital for the safety of guests.

If the CM's attitude comes off to you as intimidating, it's because you've never had to deal with guests who simply refuse to budge from a walkway. The walkways are essential not only for guests who do not want to watch the show, but vital in case Paramedics need to get to a life-or-death emergency. Cast members have to be able to deal with guests who think that other people's safety comes second to their own desires. It's the most thankless job in the park, made all the more stressful by people like you who demean it.

 

Originally Posted By Autopia Deb

Bravo PirateJohn!

As someone who rarely stops to watch the parades but often needs to navigate Main Street, I appreciate the efforts of crowd control CMs. If it weren't for them I would not be able to move on Main Street an hour either side of the parade.

 

Originally Posted By azgroves

I don't know about the part where he was trying to "pick me up". I was wearing wedding rings. And it is just CREEPY to sit next to a woman so close when you don't know her. I got the feeling he was interested in what was in my backpack. But again, I don't know for sure.

 

Originally Posted By YourPalEd

Bravo John! The castmember always comes first before the customer.

Actually i did not observe this myself, i had mobs of angry customers screaming profanities about the cast member guest control, in my ear.

I looked up and saw they had quite a job, probably the worse than most.

That is no excuse to turn off the disney magic.

The two thousand people sitting in the streets, who waited an hour to watch the fireworks over the castle. I listen to these guests a lot after the fireworks show, and it starting to clear out.

One of the number one complaints is not another guest talking during the show, but the constant shouting of the cast members to keep it moving.

Guests have commented loudly "They couldn't have done more to spoil it for me."

Now as for myself, i NEVER go to mainstreet and put myself in that situation, so i really have no emotional attachment about it one way or another.

I like to watch the fireworks in peace and quiet, i don't need to be surrounded.

Just ask Maynard, who is one of the best at crowd control, i've heard. Of course, he's great at anything and everything he does.

Something is driving that fellow to excel.

 

Originally Posted By YourPalEd

Was the bench in the shade? I find when i am sitting alone on a bench in the shade people feel free to cram the space.

What i can't stand is sitting alone, and a family trying to commandeer the bench. They surround me, and talk loudly to each other through your head as if you aren't there.

When this happens, i take off my sunglasses and i stare at whoever is the loudest, and smile. I stare at them and smile and whoever loudly takes up the conversation, i stare back at them. Very rude if you ask me.

"Nobody asked ya."

 

Originally Posted By azgroves

^^No, the bench was not in the shade it was 10pm.

I have always felt safe at DL. And I still do...I was just creeped out I guess.