Originally Posted By mousermerf Most folks refer to him as Esau, so i've always assumed that was his name. As far as the losties are concerned, his name is Adam. As for going into the light.. "Will I die?" "No, it's a fate worse then death" per the mother, so Jacob didn't kill Esau/Adam. He did whatever it was to him that the light causes, but it's not death.
Originally Posted By utahjosh He doesn't have a name. As far as we know, he's never had one. Here are the things he's been called that I've heard: • Man In Black (MIB) • Jacob's Brother • The Dark One • Adam • Esau • Smokey • Smoke Monster • Fake Locke • Flocke • Smokezilla
Originally Posted By DAR Remember earlier in the season when Dogen(the cool looking Asian dude) gave Sayid a knife and told him to approach Flocke. But he had to do it before Flocke said anything. Sayid failed to do that as Flocke spoke. Last night what did the MIB do, he plunged the knife in his "mother" before she was able to say anything.
Originally Posted By DAR <a href="http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20313460_20368574,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0...,00.html</a> The Entertainment Weekly recap is up(sorry I haven't posted one of these in awhile)
Originally Posted By dizkid I got a PS3 for christmas and have been watching old seasons of lost on it, this was the first episode that I was completely caught up on the series. I thought the thing about the light was a little "hippieish." The one question I have is how the Man In Black appears to still be alive yet his skeleton is in the caves. I have to go back and rewatch the episode where Jack finds the bodies. My favorite explanation so far was when Hurley said that maybe the skeletons were their own and they got time traveled to the past and died there. LOL. This episode really brings up the question of "Who do you think should take over as the Islands Protector?" In my mind it has to be Hurley, he is getting all the visits from dead guys so he is clearly more in tune with the spiritual side of things... Plus Everybody Loves Hugo.
Originally Posted By amazedncal2 I really wish they didn't have Allison Janney play the "mother." It's probably just me and not that she's not a good actress, but I kept seeing her as CJ Cregg (West Wing) and not as this mysterious lady. I couldn't even close my eyes and just listen because her voice is so distinguishable.
Originally Posted By dizkid Lostpedia.com reports that this episode was set around 2,000 years before the crash of Oceanic 815. The name of the episode in which we first see the skeletons of the MiB and his "Mother" is the episode "House of the Rising Sun." The game that young MiB (Or Boy in Black) finds ont he beach is called senet and is one of the oldest games in the world. In ancient Egypt Senet boards were placed alongside graves for use in the afterlife. Something I noticed is that the BiB seemed to have the same affection for Senet as Locke had for Backgammon (a game that is also quite ancient.) Another Interesting detail we see is that Jacob learns the art of Tapestry Making which we see the results of the episode "The Incident" along the walls of the temple in the foot statue. We also saw the wine bottle Jacob uses to show Richard (Ricardo) how the island works. My other question is how the Mother managed to kill the village and fill the well so quickly.
Originally Posted By dizkid Yeah but also remember that the when MIB had richard go to kill jacob he said the same thing "do it before he speaks to you." So it may just be a thing to do with the "gods of the island" is that you have to kill them before they talk to you. So she was not necassarily the Smoke Monster. This is a question that I do not think we will see an answer to in the series though. (To little time... to many questions)
Originally Posted By mousermerf Side note on "time" - the island corrupts, no? Like, people turn against each other. It's not like she necessarily had to kill them, but pull a Smokie have them get themselves killed/fighting/etc.. And she left him for dead-ish. It's still light out so we assume it's the same day.. but he could have been down there for a few days with the island healing him.
Originally Posted By dizkid Ineteresting view on things MM. Because it was still light out I just assumed it was the same day, but it could have been a different one.
Originally Posted By DAR After last night, I am completely jacked up for Sunday. I did see the Jack thing coming a mile away. I love that Ben is back to his shifty shady ways. I didn't like whiny nobody wants me Ben(though Michael Emerson is such an awesome actor he made you feel sympathetic) But please please please tell me that's not how Richard goes out. If he is dead, doesn't he deserve a more heroic send off?
Originally Posted By DAR I'm really intrigued by "We're going to a concert." Obviously they're going to see Faraday, but is that going to be a way that connects the two worlds. Sunday I will be in silent mode because I know my dad will try to contact me asking all of these questions even though he stopped watching the show. He'll probably check it out of curiosity. I've already told him I will give him my dvd's of the seasons and then he can ask questions after that.
Originally Posted By utahjosh The concert is either Faraday/DriveShaft or Jacks's son's concert. Could be one and the same.
Originally Posted By llanatoye DAR, love your pun "Jacked up for Sunday", I think I saw it coming also. I'm turning off my phone Sunday night, I've already told work that if I'm not there first thing Monday morning not to call me. I'm sure after the finale my mind will be working overtime. I am riveted by how this is coming together. I don't think all our questions will be answered but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I also feel that this shouldn't be the final season, the writers are so clever and I could be entertained by this show's puzzles for a very long time.
Originally Posted By DAR <<DAR, love your pun "Jacked up for Sunday", I think I saw it coming also. >> Actually it wasn't even intentional
