Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "I'd rather have Radiator Springs Racers than Journey. Journey's pretty, but it's short, and it does not look thrilling at all. If a ride is short, it better be thrilling." Have you ever ridden it? The end is INCREDIBLE as you launch out the side of the volcano. You want thrilling? Try riding with a bunch of Japanese school girls, like I did, having them all scream high pitched in unison in your ears. Between the launch and THAT, trust me, I was shaken afterwards!
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<The end is INCREDIBLE as you launch out the side of the volcano.>> I know. But a 2 hour wait isn't worth a 2 minute ride with a 10 second thrill. <<Try riding with a bunch of Japanese school girls, like I did, having them all scream high pitched in unison in your ears.>> That isn't a thrill. That's torture. Haha.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> Well RSRs is for the over 12 crowd, so I'll throw that part of the argument out. And classic and original can't over come some pretty serious shortcomings, IMO. The AAs are cool and the theming is great, but again, the ride is really short, and lacking some definite thrill, and for a ride like that, it needs thrill.<<< I don't think of it as part of the over 12 crowd at all...It's for 5 year olds and their desired to own Cars Merch. It just happens to be themed incredibly well, and uses some really cool tech. JTTCOTE can always...well...would have been...made longer.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> Verne is fine, but he isn't instant Disney classic.<<< tell that to 20K!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I am looking forward to TWWOHP as much as anyone- I just hope people are equally as critical as they are on Disney. I am far from a Disney apologist - and I wish to Heck Disney would have reigned in Potter for the Studios, but as amazing as the pictures look- if I am standing where I can get a Jurassic Park booth in the same photo shot as Hogwart's I am going to be pissed... I hope Potter lives up to the hype as I am not a huge Uni fan..but absolutely making the trip up the road this year to see this.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I just hope people are equally as critical as they are on Disney. >> One thing that really, really bugs me is the show building is clearly visible. They really need to do something with it. << I wish to Heck Disney would have reigned in Potter for the Studios>> I don't. They would have wasted it with a TSMM-type ride(their actual plans), rather than give it the massive, game changing E-ticket it's getting. <<I am standing where I can get a Jurassic Park booth in the same photo shot as Hogwart's I am going to be pissed...>> To me that's no different than getting the castle in a shot from Adventureland, or Liberty Square.
Originally Posted By mousermerf <<<One thing that really, really bugs me is the show building is clearly visible>>> I assume when the trees grow in it wont be as visible. You can see the Haunted Mansion show building when the trees are trimmed too. From the intended approach it's not blatantly visible.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Call me stupid, but I honestly have looked, and have never been able to see the HM show building. *shrug*
Originally Posted By Krankenstein EE, your dumb! :lookaroun Anyway, 20K wasn't an instant classic just because of the source material. It was a classic because of the scope and amazing transportability of the attraction. It literally took you to another world.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Anyway, 20K wasn't an instant classic just because of the source material. It was a classic because of the scope and amazing transportability of the attraction. It literally took you to another world.>> Yup, it was the ride, not the material. It was a classic in DL without the 20K motif.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> EE, your dumb! :lookaroun Anyway, 20K wasn't an instant classic just because of the source material. It was a classic because of the scope and amazing transportability of the attraction. It literally took you to another world. <<< LOL! true, but it WAS a classic.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad New rule. No classics can be removed from the parks. Now how do we get to vote on what is a classic?
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 New rule. No classics can be removed from the parks. Now how do we get to vote on what is a classic?<< Too late, Bathroom of Tomorrow was removed years ago...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>New rule. No classics can be removed from the parks. Now how do we get to vote on what is a classic?<<< That only needs to be a rule for EPCOT. If they would have followed that line of thinking, there would be much less angst directed at that park.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer And I say "only for EPCOT", seeing that's probably the only park that's had almost ALL of it's opening day attractions butchered and changed. What basically made the park so special and unique and SUCCESSFUL is dead.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<there would be much less angst directed at that park.>> As well as a lot more bored people...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> As well as a lot more bored people...<<< Leave and update the originals, add new and different attractions (Test Track could have been in a warehouse behind WOM, for example) keep the looks and aesthetics of the park clean and futuristic, you have a perfect park. Seriously. They needed to expand with new entertainment, not rip out the old and build on top of it.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Sure, in a perfect world that would have been nice. But it didn't happen, and Epcot is still one of the two parks that are far ahead of the others(DAK, MK).
Originally Posted By tashajilek Sure TWWOHP might blow anything disney has done in the US.Take into consideration that if there were no disney to compete with would There even be other theme parks as good as Universal? Theme parks near each other are going to always compete and try to out do the other parks for the business.
