Originally Posted By leobloom >> It is still a big ask to get the animal programs folks to sign off on any large-scale spectacle. Rightly so considering that they are the primary residents of the park. << Has the plan always been to keep DAK open from 9-5? At any point during the design process did the Imagineers think about the disadvantages to having a park that is closed every night? It almost seems like Disney designed DAK to be a half-day park, which has been a common complaint about MGM over the years. I realize there are attractions that were planned for DAK that were never built, but did Disney ever privately discuss the park as a more "limited" experience than what's available at the other 3 parks since it seems they always expected it to have reduced operating hours?
Originally Posted By CaptainMichael <<<better than cleaning up puke off of an umbrella stroller while some retard who was reliving his college days stumbles around the bus- pretty similar- I can see your point. I stand corrected>>> And why is there a stroller on a bus after midnight?
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 When I'm on vacation I don't believe in set times for bed. But you do need to pay attention to your child's need for sleep. I'm fine with a stroller at midnight.
Originally Posted By danyoung >...not that it should have been the only reason to do this but does anyone know how well attended EMH evening hours were @ AK ?< How dare you try to inject rationality into a totally well thought-out discussion about why Disney is so evil and stupid? Between you and leemac, next thing you know there might be real intelligent discourse on these threads. And that would TOTALLY get in the way of our ranting that Disney is evil and stupid!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Did Walt mean adult rides also- and shows - or did he mean on site bars and lounges ? Maybe both- don't know- but neither does anyone else. I can only share my experiences and some of them weren't pleasant. I don't travel with the family to WDW so that I can seek adult only entertainment. That doesn't make me right or wrong, it just makes me , well me. I love to go to Irish bars- and do so all the time at home, but the kids are not with me. I like comedy clubs and drinks with umbrella's in them at times- but again I separate that as much as possible from WDW. <<<< Yeah, but if kept up to Disney quality, and level of showmanship, the adult things should be (mostly) acceptable to kids, too.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>Point is you should punish the masses for what a select group of dumbasses do.<<< Not at all. Punish the dumbasses. (AKA, throw the noisy drunks out of EPCOT, please. The other drunks are fine. LOL )
Originally Posted By MousDad >>The guy clutching Mickey's hand in front of the Castle. It's close the the MSUSA Mall.<< Aaahh. The original clutch plusher.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Hmm ... so I head to Asia and Disney takes my absence as a chance to cut something else at WDW. How so not shocking. A park that began life with normal operating hours of 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. nightly is now 9-5 or 9-6 over 90% of the year. Amazing. No one gets to see how beautiful this park is after dark now. As to cost, I'd just laugh that off ... I'm sure they'll make up any 'alleged' losses by the addition of the new tours/experiences from the boutique animal park idea. This is just typical business as usual from TDO. I am sure when Jason Garcia talks to the PR hacks at Disney they'll spin this as being for the good of the animals.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<<better than cleaning up puke off of an umbrella stroller while some retard who was reliving his college days stumbles around the bus- pretty similar- I can see your point. I stand corrected>>> And why is there a stroller on a bus after midnight? it was around 7 PM that time coming back from dinner when a group of over served morons entered the bus on their way to EPCOT -
Originally Posted By vbdad55 6^^ other occasions lately ( and my kids are now 16 and 26 ) have been late at night..including having a bus driver notify security/police for passed out goof
Originally Posted By danyoung I'm the last person on Earth to want things to get even more politically correct. But can't we come up with a better term for a drunken moron than "retard"?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 agreed- was checking to make sure I did not use- my youngest daughter corrects me very quickly if that word is used -- drunken moron works for me
Originally Posted By vbdad55 well actually my mis spent youth on the south side of Chicago rears it's ugly head now and again- even these many years later-, but I have a great conscious in my 16 year old that keeps me in line... but I do try not to use certain words that have been misused in circumstances like this - yes thanks Danny !
Originally Posted By danyoung Well, times have changed. When I was growing up it was more or less acceptable to call a buddy a retard when he was acting silly. Times have changed, and in this case I think for the better.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 >>How dare you try to inject rationality into a totally well thought-out discussion about why Disney is so evil and stupid? Between you and leemac, next thing you know there might be real intelligent discourse on these threads. And that would TOTALLY get in the way of our ranting that Disney is evil and stupid! << I know - sometimes the fact that they are a corporation and do HAVE to watch some things in a dollar and cents profitability sense does seem to get lost. It shouldn't be the only factor in decisions but to think it isn't A factor is naive. No one is going to pay a large staff to work wen there are but a few ( relatively ) customers on hand. I know a few people who owned restaurants before the recession- that either cut back hours or sadly were forced to close because they weren't making a large enough profit to pay the staff after certain times. People sharing entree's- not coming as often - etc... Now that said I don't know if that was the reason for AKL cutting back- which is why I asked the question. I thought someone like Lee might have some stats on that... if that was a reason, for all those who advocate not going to WDW to 'force' them to add things etc.-- take note- adding may not be the answer the equation comes up to
