Latest: 12 hurt when 2 Disney busses crash

Originally Posted By MPierce

>> This bus thing was nothing more than a fender bender. Its great bad luck was happening so close to the monorail tragedy. I'd betcha busses bump into each other all the time in the World. <<

When you see a fender bender involving a bus here, you see at least a dozen people being transported to Ben Taub on stretchers wearing a neck brace. I'm sure it's the same way with DART.

 

Originally Posted By vbdad55

^^^ and a dozen lawyers in town cars following them there

 

Originally Posted By danyoung

When I say fender bender I mean that the accident itself is not at all newsworthy. Some people were banged up, some people are going to sue, etc. But the thing that made it news is its proximity to the fatality accident on the monorail. If this bus thing had happened 6 months ago we probably wouldn't have even heard about it.

 

Originally Posted By MPierce

>> ^^^ and a dozen lawyers in town cars following them there <<

One group of slime catering to another group of slime.

 

Originally Posted By MPierce

>> When I say fender bender I mean that the accident itself is not at all newsworthy. Some people were banged up, some people are going to sue, etc. But the thing that made it news is its proximity to the fatality accident on the monorail. If this bus thing had happened 6 months ago we probably wouldn't have even heard about it.


Yes it has more dramatic impact because of the death on the monorail, and you know how the media likes to dramatize events even when they are minor. However in the Orlando area I think that anything that happens a WDW makes the news. I'm sure most folks in Chicago could care less. That is with the possible exception of VBDAD.

 

Originally Posted By bobbelee9

Disney has a major bullseye on everything they do.

While an accident is never good, everything remotely bad at Disney gets blown out of proportion. Me thinks.

 

Originally Posted By WilliamK99

Unfortunately, there are quite a few oportunists at Disney, where if the slightest little thing happens, they blow it out of proportion hoping for either "compensation", or future legal claims... That is probably why so many had to be stretchered out, it would look better in a lawsuit...

 

Originally Posted By bobbelee9

Is Universal accident free or do I just not hear about their accidents? Maybe it's Universal that's blowing WDW accidents out of proportion. Or to be really nasty, maybe Universal is causing the accidents at WDW.

 

Originally Posted By ImaginingDisney001

>>>> Is Universal accident free or do I just not hear about their accidents? <<<<<


All the parks are OPEN GAME for the opportunists.

Right now, DIsney has had such a bad streak, the worst was the monorail, that all the little accidents are being overlooked because DISney is in the headlines, and, If I am correct, DISney is probably the largest of conglomerates which would translate into ( Has MORE Money To Lose ).

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Originally Posted By ORD84

>>However in the Orlando area I think that anything that happens a WDW makes the news. I'm sure most folks in Chicago could care less.<<

That may be part of the problem, for all in all Orlando is still a small town no matter how much it trys to show its a city...and I care I live in Chicago..

But yes if this thing happened in Chicago a train accident and then a bus accident people pretty much act like its nothing too worry about and go about their days anyway..last year we had a train accident and then a bus accident not too long later, people pretty much forgot or act like they forgot less than 2 weeks later. Pretty sure the same will happen in this case even though it happened in Disney..

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<While an accident is never good, everything remotely bad at Disney gets blown out of proportion. Me thinks.>>

True to a certain extent.

But it's also due to Disney's reputation for safety and excellence.

These things aren't supposed to happen.

And the fact is this bus collision happened just days after a monorail crash (won't use the term 'accident' because IMHO that should only be used when something is 99.999% not preventable ... and that was absolutely not the case here) just a quarter of a mile from where the trains collided ... well, that does make it newsworthy.

I am sure Disney is just praying people in the media focus on leaked blueprints and manager's at Denny's and don't look deeper to see what's under the pxie dust (hint: It's Disney's old playbook. The one that got tossed to be lean and mean and competitive -- and fill in your own BS terms here -- in the 21st century)

 

Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

<< These things aren't supposed to happen. >>

Busses are somehow exempt from the reality of the world in WDW and not capable of colliding?

I lived in San Diego for a few years and it seemed like they ran over someone with their trolley system or had a collision with a car at least once a week. What is the prevalence of accidents in other transit systems? Why is it not possible for the Disney transit system to be subject to the same accidents that happen everyday in cities across America?

 

Originally Posted By sjhym33

" am sure Disney is just praying people in the media focus on leaked blueprints and manager's at Denny's and don't look deeper to see what's under the pxie dust (hint: It's Disney's old playbook. The one that got tossed to be lean and mean and competitive -- and fill in your own BS terms here -- in the 21st century)"

Who is left that knows the old playbook?

 

Originally Posted By danyoung

>..won't use the term 'accident' because IMHO that should only be used when something is 99.999% not preventable ...<

dictionary.com is my friend -

ac⋅ci⋅dent [ak-si-duhnt]

–noun 1. an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss.

I think for most, the operative word here is "unintentionally", not preventable. If my attention wanders while driving and I drift into another lane, causing a fender bender, that's an accident. If I maliciously aim my car at another vehicle, that's not an accident.

Not calling the monorail crash an accident implies that there was some motive on someone's part, which I'm sure is not your intent, oh Spirit. Anyway, just being cranky on a hot Sunday Texas morning.

 

Originally Posted By dshyates

"Is Universal accident free or do I just not hear about their accidents?"

This happened one week before the mororail accident.

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Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<Who is left that knows the old playbook?>>

I think there are plenty.

I know that I myself know 2-3 ex-railies who would love to reup with the company IF things are done the right way ... the old way ... the Disney Way.

But they need to paid for their time and knowledge ... and they need to spend it working with younger CMs who are fit for the job ... i.e. not moving over from the pin shack at TPFKaTD-MGMS and barely being able to speak/understand English.

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<Not calling the monorail crash an accident implies that there was some motive on someone's part, which I'm sure is not your intent, oh Spirit. Anyway, just being cranky on a hot Sunday Texas morning.>>

Cranky ... or anal, Danny! ;-)

I know it's semantics but I still take issue with it ... I was involved in an 'accident' by your definition a few years ago too ... a driver high on drugs, tore threw a stop sign at a WalMart, tried to make an illegal left turn (across four lanes of traffic) and hit me head on at about 45mph.

She certainly didn't intend for the 'accident' to happen (or total her new 350Z) but it certainly wasn't an accident because it was completely preventable.

And, yeah, so was this.

So, play the word game all you want, but I refuse to call something an accident when it was anything but. Intent be damned (I feel like channeling Scar telling Simba that no on intends for bad things ...)

You keep reading the dictionary, though!

Do they list pixie dust in there?

 

Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

<< You keep reading the dictionary, though! >>

Look up hyperbole.