Originally Posted By JUNEBUG13 ^I'm with you on that one. I don't see why everyone is trying to place blame on Disney. It's obvious that the ride has no problems whatsoever with its operation. Maybe they should change the age/height requirement, but why close the ride if no one else is being affected?
Originally Posted By jdub >>Can we please stop blaming the parents until there is a reason to do so? They were at a DISNEY theme park....their son met the height requirement. What part about that (don't) you get?<< THANK you. It seems like way too many people--even some who say they aren't doing so--are rushing to beat the parents with sticks. Support Disney to the end? Whose end, next? C'mon, if nothing else, why can't the park even wait a little longer to reopen the ride, in order to a)await autopsy results, or at least b)show a little respect? And you just get away from ME with those thug sticks.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Hey folks, it is an Amusement Ride!!! Kepping it closed until the investigation is final, and they determine what the cause was for the death, who does that really hurt??? NOBODY! What is the best result... that another tragic death is prevented!!! Big Thunder was closed for months by DOSH, and folks still went to Disneyland and had a great time.... But to reopen the ride even prior to the initial autopsy... why couldn't they waited until those facts came out (the initial autopsy showed nothing, and required more detailed testing.) Yes, maybe the need to change the age/height requirements, and only the final results of the autopsy and if need be more testing of the ride will let us know that. Keeping the ride closed to make sure another young child doesn't die is a small price to pay!
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Who does it hurt to keep it open? Closing it more weeks just to collect dust is pointless....
Originally Posted By Darkbeer >>Who does it hurt to keep it open? Closing it more weeks just to collect dust is pointless....<< IF there is a problem with the ride for young children, it could seriously hurt or kill another child!!!!! Once again, I said IF, we don't know what happened yet, but for safety sake, it is better to keep it closeduntil we know to make sure nobody else gets hurt!
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 IF there is a problem with the ride for young children, it could seriously hurt or kill another child!!!!!<< How many young children have ridden this ride in last 2 years, something didn't magically change last week to cause the death. If this death occurred right after opening, I would agree with you, but with 2 years of no kids being hurt, and then tragically a young boy gets killed, tells me it is not the ride. Unless he was the 1st 4 year old to ride Mission Space which I highly doubt.
Originally Posted By jdub >>Closing it more weeks just to collect dust is pointless....<< What "more weeks?" We have to have it closed weeks to close it MORE weeks. And the "pointless" comment reads as callous. SOMEthing went wrong, and until the facts are in, the point is to avoid further injury and death. So sorry if that seems trivial.
Originally Posted By jdub Aw, heck, maybe when these things happen, the teen ride operators should just shpritz the area with a little Windex, reload the ride, and smack the button again as usual.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 So sorry if that seems trivial.<< It's not trivial, a life was lost, but keeping the ride closed is not going to bring the kid back. Disney tested the ride, found it to be operating normally and reopened it. It was either a tragic accident or something caused by a condition the boy had, not the ride, otherwise, why is this the first incident with a young kid.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Aw, heck, maybe when these things happen, the teen ride operators should just shpritz the area with a little Windex, reload the ride, and smack the button again as usual.<< Forget it , its not worth debating if you are going to act like that, we disagree, you don't need to mock me.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 jdub, talk about being insensitive...... This is just another way for the anti-disney crowd to get a slam in. I hope you guys will shut up in a few weeks when it is revealed the ride did not cause the death, but you won't you will find something else to slam Disney off and treat everyone else like dirt. jdub: find a post where I mocked you or made fun of your position? On that note I am out, not worth my time anymore.
Originally Posted By jdub Sigh. Anti-Disney? You don't know me. People who LOVE Disney parks actually DO care about these incidents, and how the company follows up. And you said you were out before, or I would have never made the Resolve comment. If I thought you were in it for the long haul, I would have went straight to the ammonia. (To be honest, this isn't ABOUT you. All of my comments, even pre-"shpritz," were aimed toward alll of the posters seeming to be ready to let the park off the hook before all the facts were in. Irresponsible, even for Disney park lovers. People like me.)
Originally Posted By crazyformickey Ok, with a trip in 14 days I sit and think I may not go on this ride...at least not at first....but, I have a 9 year old and he went on MS when it opened in October of 03 (he was 7). He thought it was cool but I have not been able to get him on since. When I went last year (now 8) he cried and begged no. I told him no it's alright and he stayed with my aunt while I took her daughter on. This ride is scary and I only go on once a trip it is intense. My son's first trip he was 6 and 42" tall he wanted to go on Rock n Roller coaster (which has a 48" requirement) he was upset but at age 8 he was finally tall enough to ride. I glad we waited he really enjoyed the ride. Now, when you hear this story it makes you really think. I have two kids one who is 2 and I don't plan on taking her on most of the "older" rides till she is 6 or 7. MS is scary and my 46 year old aunt wouldn't even go on at all. But, Disney now needs to raise the height and/or age requirement for this ride to 48" or 52" and at least 7 or 8 for age. To close this ride once it was checked would be stupid, the ride it self did not break down and cause the death nor did his car run faster then normal. I am very sad for this family and pray that no one should ever have to go through this again. Parents be smart this ride is very very intense, kids do not know what they are getting into they just want to be "big". It's up to us parents to know what rides our child and handle and what they can't. Do research and ask riders coming off what they thought and/or they would ride again and why.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m <<This is just another way for the anti-disney crowd to get a slam in. I hope you guys will shut up in a few weeks when it is revealed the ride did not cause the death, but you won't you will find something else to slam Disney off and treat everyone else like dirt.>> Wow, stereotype much William? I'm the last person anyone would call anti-Disney. To assume everyone saying the ride needs to be closed longer is anti-Disney really needs to check their facts.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Wow, stereotype much William? I'm the last person anyone would call anti-Disney. To assume everyone saying the ride needs to be closed longer is anti-Disney really needs to check their facts. << I was mainly implying Darkbeer as being anti Disney. I didn't say everyone I said and I quote "This is just another way for the anti-disney crowd to get a slam in" I didn't say you were in that crowd.
Originally Posted By jdub >>I was mainly implying Darkbeer as being anti Disney. I didn't say everyone I said and I quote "This is just another way for the anti-disney crowd to get a slam in" I didn't say you were in that crowd.<< The statement suggested that you consider anyone in support of a longer wait before reopening the ride-- to be "anti-Disney." And that suggestion would be patently false.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 The statement suggested that you consider anyone in support of a longer wait before reopening the ride-- to be "anti-Disney." And that suggestion would be patently false.<< That is not what I meant, I just meant that certain people jump all over the negatives at Disney while dismissing the negatives at other parks. That is what I meant by anti Disney crowd, if that shoe fits, wear it, otherwise dismiss my statement.
Originally Posted By jdub I love Disney parks; I just think their post-fatality strategy should be somewhat more than a roll of paper towels and a bottle of Pine-Sol. ;^D
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I love Disney parks; I just think their post-fatality strategy should be somewhat more than a roll of paper towels and a bottle of Pine-Sol. ;^D<< So if someone has a heart attack on a ride, they should shut down the ride for weeks until it is determined that person had a heart attack? We are assuming at this point, what if this kid had a condition that could have occurred on IASW, would we have shut that ride down for 3 weeks? Until the facts come in, its too early to say Disney did the right/wrong thing.
