Originally Posted By mousermerf Have you gone rafting dean..? They tell you to pack a change of clothes but otherwise don't really offer much advice on how to dress, and there are lockers! Just like the theme parks! And the change of clothes? That's more implied then told - and it's actually mentioned in every single guidebook I've read about going to a park with those sort of water rides. No surprises, unless people are dense.
Originally Posted By mousermerf And if you're suggesting Disney or anyone pander to people who goto a theme park and pay nearly $100 a day for entry and yet have no idea what sort of rides are inside of it.. well.. that's not an option and never will be.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>FerretAfros: It's also a completely different context. Going rafting for a day is completely different than going on a single 6 minute ride during a day at a theme park. When rafting, you know you will be wet all day, and you dress accordingly. << >>skinnerbox: In case you didn't notice... there is a BIG difference between vacationing in the great outdoors and vacationing in a freakin theme park! << I think by this point in this discussion we can lay this line to rest: "How many people in this discussion have ever actually been white water rafting?"
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>Have you gone rafting dean..? They tell you to pack a change of clothes but otherwise don't really offer much advice on how to dress, and there are lockers! Just like the theme parks!<< Merf ... I think when it comes to real white water rafting ... I can't see how anyone in their right mind not dress accordingly. If the whole family is going to load up the van and head to a camping excursion for the weekend ... I hardly think a 3 piece suit or silk dress is going to be in their luggage.
Originally Posted By socalkdg <<<<If the whole family is going to load up the van and head to a camping excursion for the weekend ... I hardly think a 3 piece suit or silk dress is going to be in their luggage.>>>> I always laugh when I see people dressed like this at DL. Or high heels on women. Shirt, shorts, sandals. What more do you need.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>And if you're suggesting Disney or anyone pander to people who goto a theme park and pay nearly $100 a day for entry and yet have no idea what sort of rides are inside of it.. well.. that's not an option and never will be. << I got a great idea! How about Disney creates the first ever paint gun ride where we splatter other riders with different colored paints. We'll call it - World of Color Astro Blasters! Oh don't worry. It will be water based. And afterward they can just rinse off in the local bathroom. You know .. people have to expect to adjust to "minor" rigmaroles from a few rides, here and there. After all there should be no limitations, to what a theme park attraction should be. Right?
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>I always laugh when I see people dressed like this at DL. Or high heels on women. Shirt, shorts, sandals. What more do you need.<< Would you wear a shirt, shorts, and sandals at a day or evening at the DLR if it's 45 to 65 degrees? Ohhhh .. how our very casual society today quickly forget .. a day and age .. not too long ago .. where people cared to dress nicer. And some people still do.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Here's a an old photo of Disneyland from back in the day. <a href="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/102592159_e98a1387b8_o.jpg" target="_blank">http://farm1.static.flickr.com...b8_o.jpg</a> People are indeed, dressed cute. And not just shirt, short and sandals.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I always laugh when I see people dressed like this at DL. Or high heels on women.>> More often than not, if you see DL visitors dressed this way, they're most likely dining at C33. Not everyone dresses up, but many do.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Merfie, you are so out of touch with reality sometimes. There is nothing fun about getting soaked, getting clothes, shoes, wallets, phones ruined because someone believes a theme park can/should essentially have water park attractions. I will agree that Popeye's is superior to GRR in most ways. But that point takes a strong backseat to the whole walking around soaked all day or for hours if you aren't visiting in summer on a sunny day. Folks get wet, very wet on these attractions. And that's why I think they suck. Because even if I don't go on them, I am going to wind up standing next to someone who is turning ripe because of getting soaked on a raft ride ... or I am going to sit somewhere that is expected to be dry only to wind up with a wet behind that is no fault of my own. Sure, these rides are relatively popular. But I don't really care. I always thought they were below Disney. And DAK's really sucks completely ... I don't get why the concept of being soaked at a theme park being unpleasant is beyond your feeble intellect. And ponchos and the storage compartment are largely a waste. Sometimes a total one. I'm very glad they didn't go ahead with the plan to build one in HKDL as originally planned. Although, there, they may have taken local tastes into consideration and not have given you a bath in your clothing as they do stateside.
Originally Posted By dshyates OK, I have slogged my way through 18 pages of this thread and gotten a few laughs. And have noticed some interesting things. Fist the Cali and FL Demos are very different. You Cali folks deal mostly with temporate weather and casual visits to the parks which leads to dressing differently than the FL demo which deals with hot as Hades and high humidity. Cali folks don't like to get wet on their water rides and dress that way. FL Folks ride the water rides TO get wet and dress that way. FL folks often dress in layers with a bathing suit or other quick dry outfit. They stow the outer layer in the free lockers, ride the water rides, then redress after the ride. But if you ride Popeye's in you cotten cargo shorts and Polo the rest of the day is going to be miserable. And Dabob, I think you are missing the humor of Popeye's in that you are right that part of the fun is seeing WHO will get soaked. But Popeye's build on that. They don't drench everyone at the start of the ride it starts with one side getting soaked and the other side pointing and laughing. Then later on it is the already soaked people's turn to to get an even bigger laugh when the ones that were laughing at them get theirs. Then the finale is a run through the boat wash at which point it's an all out deluge where EVERYONE gets a supersoaking. To me, Popeye's is a very well designed attraction that includes solid storytelling, elaborate themeing, and comedic drama that leaves everyone laughing (well except those that are pissed off that they got wet on a water ride, and I think they are the funniest of all). I have never seen that kind of laughing and general glee from folks exiting GRR. I think Cali folks are a lttle more tightly wrapped that FL tourists. Now on to GRR, I have to admit that along with the rest of DCA I was disappointed with GRR in that they let the "thrills" carry the ride in lew of elaborate show, and it just doesn't deliver on the thrills. Someone earlier in the thread described the drops as tightly controlled, and I couldn't agree more. And the rapids sections are lame. So the "thrills" are not thrilling and the themeing thin. The atmospherics are excellent, but all in all it is a pretty lame ride. With as tame as the ride is it really needs some kind of visuals to kick up the pacing. There are reports of Eisner and entourage cruising IOA in suits doing a lot of pointing and laughing. I have to believe that Universal Creative hit DCA dressed like real people and did their own snicking.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Well, as usual -ignore- to Spirit who as usual has no clue what he's talking about but likes to hear his own voice... And -bravo- for dishy plates!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "And Dabob, I think you are missing the humor of Popeye's in that you are right that part of the fun is seeing WHO will get soaked. But Popeye's build on that. They don't drench everyone at the start of the ride it starts with one side getting soaked and the other side pointing and laughing. Then later on it is the already soaked " And that gag works--sort of--once. But never again. And, as you admit, by the end everyone gets soaked every time, so say goodbye to any sense of suspense or randomness. It's a good ride. But if they didn't have that design flaw it could be a lot better, just like GRR could be a lot better with it's flaws fixed.
Originally Posted By dshyates It's not a design flaw. It's called a Dramatic Arc. That is like saying that Mystries as a genre has a design flaw because upon a second viewing you know who did it. Yes, with repeated rides you know who will get soaked, but it is still fun watching newbies on the ride. AND it's still has the fun factor of being amazed at HOW soaked you get. My kids laugh hysterically everytime we ride it at how soaked we get. Popeye's while having a good solid story and great themeing is just plain fun.
Originally Posted By dshyates Sorry, that should be "Dramatic Arc". Man, would I love an edit feature.
Originally Posted By tashajilek ^^^^ But if there was a edit feature then you might be compelled to take back what you said, Which wouldnt be much fun! I like your new name dishy-plates haha i would be so insulted if i were you.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt OK, I was barely able to follow this thread and got completely thrown off when dshyates said "Dramatic Arc". I think some of us are taking this all too seriously. It's a water ride at a theme park: riders are going to get wet to some degree, end of story. If you don't like these sorts of things simply ride something else that doesn't involve water.
