Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<How they've lucked out with the way the buses operate is beyound me.>> I dunno. I just really pray someone wakes up before they have little princesses all over the pavement. Let Bob and Willow take their brats on a packed bus leaving EPCOT on a late rainy night and see how the man feels about WDW's transport woes after ... of course, we know that'll never happen.
Originally Posted By MPierce I can't believe it hasn't already happened. You pack a bus with women, and children standing, and you are asking for a PR nightmare eventually. I still can't believe OSHA allows this. What was really funny on my last trip I had to use an ECV. When parked it takes up two seats. It is well secured to keep it from moving around. To save seats ffor able bodied people if you remain seated in your ECV you are required to be buckled in. Doesn't make much sense to me.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^I try to avoid Disney buses at all costs when I can, especially when you're talking busy times like park closings. I have had far too many 'close calls' on those magical deathtraps.
Originally Posted By Mr X What is it about the buses that concern you guys so much? Are the drivers poorly trained or something?
Originally Posted By Tink34 While I was down in late-June we were heading to Magic Kingdom from Pop Century.....we almost hit a fire truck......not a completely full bus about 10 people standing. I've almost been in about 5 accidents on Disney buses in the past I'd say 10 years. The numbers may look decent on paper but the "almost"'s shouldn't happen
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I'll bet you $50 that the VAST majority of Disney bus accidents are a direct result of poor driving skills...on the part of visitors in the cars outside the bus. In fact, I'd bet you $500 that is the case.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 ^^I won't bet against you. So many idiots in little cars on the highway zigging and zagging cutting off tractor-trailer trucks. Stupid. And they are no smarter when they're on WDW property. I've been going to WDW since '79 and can only remember 1 bad bus driver. He was zigging and zagging, as soon as we got off the bus, my DH ran to the nearest tree and puked up his morning coffee.
Originally Posted By MPierce I've had more than a few bad bus drivers, but as a whole I find them pretty good. My concern is when you have people standing rather than seated. Especially when it involves children. Even a low speed accident can turn into a disaster when you have children or pregnant women or women holding small children standing. It really doesn't matter who caused the accident.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad >>>my DH ran to the nearest tree and puked up his morning coffee<<< Hey, what did that tree ever do to him?
Originally Posted By danyoung I've said on other threads that it's hard to come up with a trend with these 3 totally different accidents. I feel strongly that the monorail accident was caused (or at least encouraged) by poor procedures, and this needs to be fixed. I've also said that it's hard to come up with a procedure to keep someone from slipping in a tiny puddle of water, but others have chimed in with the thought that a stage area should be totally, 100% clean of any material that could cause slippage, and I tend to agree with this. But this third accident? The guy was an acrobat, hired because of his skills. The tumble he was taking, if it's the one I'm thinking about from the show, is a basic skill with almost no risk. Somehow he fell wrong and landed on his neck. Perhaps training needs to be intensified on that show. Or sometimes an accident is simply an accident. I just hope OSHA and Disney management come to reasonable conclusions about this string of mishaps, and don't go overboard in their "protecting" of their employees. Yes, they should be safe and procedures should be in place to make that happen. But sometimes management can tend to completely overreact, which isn't helpful either.
Originally Posted By grlweatswchpstx >>but others have chimed in with the thought that a stage area should be totally, 100% clean of any material that could cause slippage, and I tend to agree with this.<< I'm not sure about WDW but at DL we are required to have a clean/dry stage before the show will go on and if its not for some reason, it can be a reason to cancel the show. However, we don't have nearly as much rain so it is possible the policy is different. Also, more reported accidents are due to falls than anything else in America. Unfortunately, sometimes no amount of training can prevent accidents.
