Originally Posted By Dabob2 Give it up, dude. It just gets sadder the longer you try to carry on the charade. Note also that community standards preclude personal attacks, of the sort you just indulged in.
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Originally Posted By Dabob2 Okay - 233 and 235 aren't just sock puppets - they're drunk sock puppets.
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Originally Posted By Socrates Against my better judgment, I'm actually going to comment on this, and about GD no less. Did anyone else notice how, when things went wrong -- an earthquake, an act of racial prejudice,a discouraged miner, etc -- Whoopi (as the Spirit of California) was always there with some encouragement? How was that not typical Disney? Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
Originally Posted By oc_dean uhhh..... so what does everyone think about the Carthay Circle Theater restaurant?
Originally Posted By oc_dean If we're going to talk about Golden Dreams .. how about starting off from the perspective of what was suppose to go in it's place, originally - The Circle of Hands (revolving carousel theater, meets "American Adventure") - and not a simple film auditorium, that replaced it. If we are going to ramble on about everything else .. and not the Carthay Circle building ... I'll throw my 2 cents in .. and say - Hope to see Golden Dreams on DVD or Bluray. It's a decent film production ... And glad an elaborate omnimover ride is replacing it!
Originally Posted By SafariRob Wow, it's getting ugly in here! Point taken. Many classic Disney movies and attractions are corny. There are many variables at play, though. Sometimes it works (Tiki Room) and sometimes it doesn't (Golden Dreams). Perhaps Golden Dreams didn't resonate well with guests is that the tone was inconsistent. Guests were not sure what to think. One minute Whoopie is serious and another minute she is cracking corny jokes. It's not HER fault. She did her best with what she was given. Remember the 50th Anniversary film with Steve Martin? That worked because the tone of the movie was consistently corny. (Donald Duck didn't hurt, either.)
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I don't think that the 50th Anniversary film was any better than Golden Dreams and it didn't appear to be better attended either. The main problem with Golden Dreams was that it was plunked in a park that was short on substantive classic Disney style attractions like the one that's replacing it. In short people were bored. With all the new stuff being added to DCA's attraction agenda I think Golden Dreams would do fine in a new venue like the Carthay Circle building.
Originally Posted By SafariRob If the 50th Anniversary film...plunked in Disneyland...couldn't draw better crowds, I don't see how Golden Dreams could fare any better in the CCT. It might get a boost right off the bat from people that are curious...but eventually attendance would go back to what it was.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 The idea, though, would be that it wouldn't be in a theatre (like the Lincoln theatre, or the original GD theatre) that was larger than the crowds it would draw. It would be more of a Turtle Talk-size theatre, one of a suite of attractions in a CA "Welcome Center," which is something they could have done with the Carthay Circle, though of course chose not to.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I wouldn't be surprised if something like that was tossed around at some point. Of course a profit center won out. Can't say that I blame them though since it's unlikely that they'd be able to find someone to sponsor a "welcome center" type attraction.
Originally Posted By BPSJP Not here very long but Golden Dreams did not do well because it was just bad. I had to sit through it 3 times with family from out if town and after third time, I ran and bought a bottle of wine to try to forget that monstrosity. If Disney ever brought it back I would stage a boycott! Just kidding, well sort of.
